Floyd, how great was he?

Translation:
Floyd slurpies like me see it the same.

 

Not that great.

 

Best fighter of his generation, for what that's worth.

 

Historians and Aficionados had Floyd a top 12 fighter since WW2, Pac was nowhere on that list.

Higher now of course

:deal

 

There's no point of this really, but if you think Pacquiao looked good in his last three fights, you clearly haven't studied Pacquiao.
Rios was a punchbag as predicted for Pacquiao, yet Pacquiao couldn't take him out the way he took Cotto out, for example.

Pacquiao is legitimately past prime and there's no way out of it.

2. - I already explained. He got knocked out brutally against Marquez. There has never been a fighter that has returned to be the same guy after being knocked out brutally, let alone to the extent of Pacquiao. Since then, he's been emphasising pure boxing skills more and we're not seeing Pacquiao express the very talents that were meant to provide Mayweather a threat in the first place.
To further emphasise my point, Pacquiao was incredibly gun shy against Mayweather - this isn't because of Mayweather, this is because of Pacquiao's shoulder, his physical prime being diminished and his mind making him conservative. Otherwise, remember him against Barrera, Marquez and Morales? He was the guy to get hit with big shots, in order to land his own monstrous shots. - this is why Pac was perceived as a threat.

Also, he lost his killer instinct in 2011. He became a congressman and you can tell the hunger of young was no longer there mentally.

3. Love it or hate it, the official doctor opinion is that he had a torn rotator cuff. Don't make up your own Floyd fanboy facts, schizophrenically. Mayweather knows too well of its effects, as he lost to Castillo with a torn rotator cuff. You also are aware that Manny stopped sparring early because of the shoulder problems. Furthermore, Mayweather had a mole in camp as he indicated on a fighthype post fight interview, he knew exactly what was going on in their camp (Mayweather previously tried to get Mayfield to be a mole for Pacquiao) - Mayweather tugged on the injured shoulder, hard.

4. Watch it yourself. Pacquiao countered Mayweather and beat him at his own game. I scored the real-time fight 8-4 Mayweather by the way. Boy was I wrong.

 

Floyd 118-110 Pacquiao

 

greatness? then say that all atg's cherrypicked to justify his next fight. lol. this generation is not as strong as the mentality of atg's before so getting a very low rated opponent is a joke. he does not even fight toe-to-toe to incur damage from previous fights. floyd is just pure business and not greatness. his fans still insist to inject that word into his accomplishment.

 

Then Pac is top 100? :think

 

lol You say don't make up your own facts in one sentence and then say that Mayweather lost to Castillo in the next. This place cracks me up.

 

I think it's arguable.

 

The slo mo just makes it more clear that Floyd won the fight. Manny hit nothing but arms and gloves.

You have to be 100% bias to even give Manny more than 4 rounds. Why else would you even watch it in slo motion?I've been watching combat sports for a long time, and the pacwuiao fanbase is definitely the number 1 black eye on the sport for the lastv25 or so years

 

I forgot to write 'in my opinion and in the opinion of most'.
Yet my words in that post hold truth.

 

lol

 

No. No. No.
The slow mo makes it clear that Floyd was the one landing on arms and gloves more often than originally thought - to that end, I believe you haven't watched the slow motion as it's something that cannot be refuted.