Floyd Mayweather vs Thomas Hearns - 147

Discussion in 'Classic Boxing Forum' started by xnico, Jun 26, 2021.


Who wins

  1. Mayweather KO

    6 vote(s)
    8.8%
  2. Mayweather Decision

    4 vote(s)
    5.9%
  3. Draw

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  4. Hearns KO

    38 vote(s)
    55.9%
  5. Hearns Decision

    20 vote(s)
    29.4%
  1. Flash24

    Flash24 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Why the name calling and insults? And maybe you don't know anything and is the moron.
    Mayweather Jr. Wouldn't go near a boxing ring with a prime ATG. Or, any very good in their primes that he didn't have a stylistic advantage over
    Look at his career without blinders on. Especially welterweight and above.
    There's not enough money in this world that would entice "Money" into a boxing ring with a prime "Hitman". Don't kid yourself.
    If he did he'd be fighting defensively. He didn't have the firepower to dissuade Hearns. Or the height or reach too box from a distance with him. How does he win if "He took the chance to be great" and actually got in the ring with him?
    The answer is he wouldn't win.
    Mayweather Jr. Wouldn't get near a boxing ring with a formidable threat like Hearns. A fight he would know himself he would have not one advantage over.
     
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  2. Loudon

    Loudon Loyal Member Full Member

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    This post is a perfect example of your lack of understanding.

    In terms of ability, Floyd was on another planet to a guy like Iran Barkley. But Floyd didn’t possess Barkley’s size, strength and power.

    This is what you keep overlooking.

    It doesn’t matter who achieved the most, or who was unbeaten etc.

    The only thing that is relevant here, is how they would have matched up stylistically.

    Floyd was far superior to Barkley, and Barkley beat Hearns. But that doesn’t mean that Floyd would have beaten Hearns.

    Again, if you look at their styles and match them up, Floyd had no road to victory.

    You’re a passionate fan fighting the corner of your favourite fighter. And that’s cool. But you are posting with emotion rather than with logic.
     
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  3. Loudon

    Loudon Loyal Member Full Member

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    Let’s hope that you’re trolling.
     
  4. Loudon

    Loudon Loyal Member Full Member

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    How would he have banked the majority of the rounds?
     
  5. Loudon

    Loudon Loyal Member Full Member

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    Oh dear.

    You’ve really let yourself down here.

    First off, nobody is hating anybody.

    Calm yourself down.

    Stop getting so defensive.


    Now I never said that Floyd couldn’t outbox anyone at 154.

    I said that Floyd couldn’t have outboxed Hearns at 154.

    There’s a world of difference between those 2 things.


    Now let us apply some logic here.


    Canelo Alvarez was young when he fought Floyd.

    Canelo Alvarez is 5’9 with a 70” reach.


    We’re looking here at a prime version of Thomas Hearns who fought at JMW.

    Thomas Hearns was 6’1, with a 78” reach.


    Yes, Floyd easily beat Canelo Alvarez at JMW by easily put boxing him.

    And???

    That means that he’d easily have outboxed a great boxer, who was 6’1 with a 78” reach??


    You are talking here about 2 completely different fighters.

    You are talking here about 2 completely different stylistic match ups.


    Floyd could have outboxed Canelo with one hand tied behind his back. It doesn’t mean he’d have had the same success against Hearns.

    Take a look from Floyd’s perspective.

    Fighting a 5’9 counter puncher with a small reach, was completely different to what fighting Hearns would have been like, where Hearns had a great jab, which was ultra fast from a 78” reach, whilst also possessing huge one punch knockout power with his right hand.


    Again, I don’t mind you defending your favourite fighter. But I’ve got no respect for these kinds of silly posts.

    Just give me a breakdown on how you think Floyd realistically would have beaten Thomas Hearns.

    That’s all I ask of you.
     
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  6. Loudon

    Loudon Loyal Member Full Member

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    Great post.

    I don’t mind if people rank Floyd higher than Hearns.

    I don’t mind if people think that Floyd was the better fighter.

    It doesn’t matter.

    Floyd didn’t have the size to outbox Hearns, nor the power to have stopped him.

    It’s just that simple.

    It’s also completely baffling how people think that Floyd would have boxed Hearns in an offensive manner.
     
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  7. Loudon

    Loudon Loyal Member Full Member

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    1. Ray started out trying to outbox him, but failed and started getting bashed up. And that made him completely change his tactics, where he then went toe to toe to fight him in a shootout instead.

    2. Floyd wouldn’t and couldn’t have made him wilt in the same way that Leonard did, as Floyd didn’t possess the power or the will that Leonard had. He simply wouldn’t have had the the option of changing tactics like Leonard did.

    You’ve got to be crazy to think that Floyd would have had a shootout with Thomas Hearns.

    A guy on copious amounts of LSD wouldn’t even believe that.
     
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  8. Loudon

    Loudon Loyal Member Full Member

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    Floyd was a boxer.

    A boxer of Floyd’s size can’t outbox a guy of Hearns’ size, who was also a master boxer himself.

    How do you not understand this?

    IF Floyd could have FOUGHT Hearns like Leonard did, he could have beaten him.

    He couldn’t have outboxed him though.

    We keep trying to explain this, but it’s not getting through to you.

    Do you think he could have just ‘pot shortted’ Hearns and cruised to victory like how he did against Canelo?

    Why do you think that Floyd at 5’8, could have achieved something than Leonard, Benitez, Hearns, Hagler and Hill couldn’t achieve?

    Enlighten us.
     
  9. Zulu King

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    Sugar Ray Leonard was not a slugger, he was often criticized for being 'too cute' and he still went out there and had a prime Hearns on qu33r street and gasping for air .....
    Now Floyd doesn't have the fast hand combos of SRL, but he certainly has the pinch accuracy, which is even more important...
    Again I'm not even saying Floyd wins the fight, but the assertion that he stands no chance is ridiculous.
    Furthermore, Hearns has proven he can be well ahead in a fight, and still go out there and get stopped.
    Bottom line, Hearns has proven he can be beat a lot more then Floyd has
     
  10. Loudon

    Loudon Loyal Member Full Member

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    Nonsense.

    Ray had huge power at WW.

    Marvin had huge power at MW.

    Barkley was an immensely strong fighter who ended up at CW.

    All of those guys fought.

    Floyd didn’t fight at the higher weights.

    He boxed.

    He was a boxer, not a fighter.

    Are you seriously suggesting that Floyd could also have stopped Thomas Hearns?
     
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  11. scandcb

    scandcb Active Member Full Member

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    No it isn't.
     
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  12. Zulu King

    Zulu King Member banned Full Member

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    You keep bringing up the height disparity as if everyone that KOd Hearns wasn't also the much shorter man.
     
  13. scandcb

    scandcb Active Member Full Member

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    Same as Mayweather then?
     
  14. Zulu King

    Zulu King Member banned Full Member

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    Nope, as stated numerous times already I think they split a series with Hearns very possibly winning the series.

    The only thing I have suggested Is that your moronic claim that Floyd would have no shot is simply your hate and jealously on full display
     
  15. scandcb

    scandcb Active Member Full Member

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    Or perhaps he used logic and common sense.

    Concepts that appear alien to you.
     
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