floyd should fight in middleweight

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  1. Mr Pibb

    Mr Pibb Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Too bad the bob and weave style is gone form boxing...it is sorely missed...especailly at the heavyweight level.
     
  2. jonze86

    jonze86 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Why floyd have to fight more than 1 or 2 times a year?would you be fighting more if you get 40mil a fight?and do you happen to know big fights need long time to promote and hype,that's how business works.50's there was not 40mil checks for a single fight.time's have changed and boxing is big business nowadays.no need to fight 5-6 times a year.
    And floyd have been boxing since he started to walk,do you think he can lost that ability somehow?boxing for floyd is like walking to you.

    And i bet if floyd would make 100grands a fight,he would be fighting this week.or do like SRR and go to europe for a boxing tour.and school all the club fighters and brag about it.what a champion!
     
  3. Loudon

    Loudon Loyal Member Full Member

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    Do you think that Floyd is invincible?

    We know that boxing has changed considerably since the 40's and 50's.

    But yes, of course Floyd could lose his ability.

    Anybody would lose their ability fighting 200 pro fights, until their early 40's.

    This is what you're not understanding.

    Floyd fighting every month, could lose to inferior opposition at some point.
     
  4. Imperial1

    Imperial1 VIP Member Full Member

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    Hey most great boxers fought more than once ,look at Tyson at the height of his career he was fighting at least twice a year..5 or 6 is a bit much but 2 or 3 times is good to stay sharp ..I mean hey the sport suffers because look at the fighters that are so inactive now..This doesn't just pertain to the big guys !
     
  5. jonze86

    jonze86 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    And you can keep your opinions,that BOXING is only sport in history were evolution have gone backwards.

    Does it sound ******?basketball,baseball,soccer,football,track&field,tennis,swimming,lifting,volleyball,wrestling,bjj,karate,kick boxing,skiing etc.. All have now better atheletes and every sport have also evolved.but somehow in some universe some people keep believing BOXING got better atheles and better techniques hundred years ago!

    How boxing is not comparable to any other sport?it's not a sport?it's something you eat?

    I will be first to accept and say i'm wrong if somebody could throw some facts that boxers were better in SRR time?

    only time i could say boxers could be better would be 80's.but only reason is that then boxing was it highest.tv's come to every household etc.. much more exposure and media created these fighers from mars,who would destroy everybody

    i respect the old,but hope people would appreciate modern boxers more.

    and stop watching those old youtube video's,and look fights live or from tv.
    there could happen some nice thinks!

    no need ro masturbate to old youtube videos of SRR,Louis,Armstrong etc.. over and over again,and think they were the kings and i refuse to believe someone could be at same level,or even worse someone suggest there is somebody better,no way they are legends and my idols.don't shatter my dreams i also believe superman and spiderman are for real!
     
  6. jonze86

    jonze86 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    how many times i have to say that floyd would also maybe start to lose after 100 fights?i never said floyd would go undefeated 200 fights and be over 40!

    and yes i believe,until some fighter prove me wrong.floyd is invincible until someone proves that wrong :hi:
     
  7. jonze86

    jonze86 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    and you know what nowadays happens after a fight?they go see a doctor,and if you have even small signs of concussion or anything you are banned 30-90 days.it is what is
     
  8. Imperial1

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    With regards to media exposure the sport has evolved ,but you have to be ******ed to think that the sport has evolved from a boxing stand point

    Why is it that no one right now can challenge Floyd ? Name one boxer that is comparable to him skill wise ? Most of those guys are past their best ! NO up and comer will have the techniques or the boxing IQ to challenge him ..This is why he can pick and chose who to fight !





    I can't appreciate modern boxing yet until the heavy weight division is back to what it once was,we get back undisputed champs , and we have guys who fight the best at their best , You can spin it all you want but the sport has regressed !!! All because safety and business !!

    Name one HW that can throw combinations as well as Joe Louis or can counter punch like Holyfield ? You can't yet the sport has evolved :huh
     
  9. jonze86

    jonze86 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    and floyd losing the ability?GTFO it's in his blood..only think he would lose by age is power,speed,stamina and wear on the body

    hilarious suggestion that floyd lose his boxing skills :rofl
     
  10. klimting

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    Despite what Vivek Wallace would have everyone believe, i don't think Floyd is better than all other fighters in history just because he made a guy - who was always expected to lose to him - look bad.

    Going off this (nevertheless impressive) shutout from Mayweather is certainly enough of a scalp to qualify discussions of his All Time rankings, but to suddenly shoot him to the very top of the pile?? Of all time?? I dont think so.......
     
  11. jonze86

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    joe louis was a cruiserweight in modern standards,and jones jr would have taken slow louis to school :cool:

    holyfield is a modern boxer,prime was 90's

    and yes nobody can challenge floyd right now at WW,there was a time when SRR was at WW and nobody could challenge him..and keep in mind SRR was natural WW and floyd is natural LW
     
  12. Imperial1

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    And that cruiser weight would be a stand out in today's Hw division or you just sold on size? And last I checked Rjj wasn't a successful cruiser .. And at what time could Srr not be challenge :huhI believe had a couple of losses..

    As far as Holyfield though look at where he started the frequency in which he fought ,the trainers that guided him today's boxers don't have the level of activity to become as complete as he was or the trainers yet you still think the sport has evolved ..
     
  13. jonze86

    jonze86 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    ****** to suggest louis would have a chance against klichtkos.haye would take louis to school.

    yes srr got losses after WW,and that point he was too old to compete at top level

    what over 120 fights and one loss?don't sound like he got that many challenges.

    you are totalöy dismissing modern boxers,suggesting they are lazy and ****.do you know how much floyd have dedicated to boxing?and still is.

    only think i give to you that HW boxing have gone backwards.behind klitchkos,haye,povetkin,pulev there is wide talent gap.

    but i think it's more about size.there are many big *******s right now,the days are over for 200-220 lb's HW to dominate the game.
     
  14. Enigmadanks

    Enigmadanks Boxing Addict Full Member

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    The only fight at MW that makes sense is Sergio Martinez. He's been the lineal champ for quite some time now and is still rated a top 10 P4P fighter by everyone in the sport. If that fight happened and FLoyd would win, he'd be the current lineal champ in WW, JMW and MW. That would be one of the greatest resumes for any fighter in the history of the sport if Floyd could beat him.

    I really like Kid Chocolate and think he's one of the best fighters out there at 160, but he doesn't have a big fanbase yet and while he is a GBP fighter which would make the fight easy to make, he doesn't bring enough marketing/$$ to the table to face the P4P king.

    Sergio has all the attributes that would make the fight a big time PPV draw- he hasn't lost in years, is around the same age as FLoyd, and is one of the best fighters P4P. Makes sense to me that he's the only guy at 160 right now that deserves the fight with Mayweather. It would be a big time legacy booster for both fighters, and a big payday as well for them.
     
  15. Loudon

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    Nobody is saying that it's regressed as a whole.

    But it certainly hasn't evolved as a whole.

    Otherwise, as mentioned previously, today's fighters would be the best ever.

    But clearly, that's not the case.

    Once again, many of today's top guys aren't as good as their predecessors, and they would get beaten in a fight. That I've no doubt.

    You can have as many examples as you want.

    Some era's today may be stronger than other eras, and vice versa.

    But you can't generalise.

    I'm absolutely certain that Ray Robinson would clean up today at WW.

    I'm absolutely certain that Duran would clean up at today at LW.

    I'm absolutely certain that Bob Foster and Michael Spinks would clean up today at LHW.

    I'm absolutely certain that the Hitman and the Body Snatcher would clean up today at LMW.

    Now if boxing has evolved as a whole, and skills have progressed, then this wouldn't be possible.

    But again, I'm certain that those old fighters would have a field day.