And you don't think a younger, faster, better conditioned, hungrier version of Oscar could do anything to change that? :huh If you say the fight would look exactly the same, I promise you I'll leave the thread for good......and take your credibility with me :yep
It would be more competitive, Floyd would actually have to work hard and sweat a little like in the Hatton fight not just casually coast through the rounds like he did against Oscar this time.
That is a pathetic statement if true. Seriously, the P4P best going in to fights and only "working hard" if he "has" to :deal
Well it is to be honest, I'm sure if he wanted to Floyd could storm out throwing ridiculous combinations knocking everyone out if he wanted to, he has the speed and good power to finish fights very fast if he went all out.......but he doesn't. :? I don't know why not, its kind of like what Roy Jones used to do.
So BewareofDawg had the fight a draw and also states the impact of Oscars jabs. "If Oscar would have kept that jab going he would have won the fight. The jabs were awesome and much better than PBF's jab" Yeah sure dawg. great observation. You might want to read the statement below written by a boxing expert Steve springer of the LA Times. "According to PunchStat figures compiled by CompuBox, De La Hoya threw more punches, 587 to Mayweathers 481, but was less efficient, connecting on 122 to Mayweathers 207. They threw NEARLY THE SAME NUMBEROF JABS, but Mayweather landed 69 to De La Hoyas 40. And while De La Hoya threw 100 more power punches, Mayweather landed 56 more. Yeah beware you certainly know your stuff. You expose your inferior boxing knowledge in almost every one of your posts. Oscars superior jab. Ding dong, schools out!! Damn you're easy!
First of all, punches on elbows, forearms and gloves do score points. Why wouldn't they. Where does it say that in the rule book? Your telling me that good footwork, defense and ring generalship SHOULD score points, but backing your opponent up against the ropes and keeping him pinned and on the defensive with punches, no matter where they land, SHOULDN'T?? :huh Why not? They are two means of getting the same ultimate result. It is 2 different ways of controlling your opponent. It is defense by offense. Ever heard of the concept? Now admit you were wrong about that, and we can put it behind us :good
The compubox numbers were ****, and so is Steve Springer. what makes him a "boxing expert" atsch What that he can quote inaccurate punch stats I said the times where Oscar pressed in behind his jab, Floyd had no answer. I have no boxing knowledge, your fiance just claimed that "busy work" and punches that don't land clean don't score points.......so he is kinda saying if me and you fight a round, and I throw 100 punches off your gloves and arms, and you don't throw anything --- the round is a draw. Does that sound right ol' wise one?
floyd beats the oscar of the quartey fight no doubt. oscar was not on form that night. he does not beat the oscar of the trindad fight. he really was great that night
GeniOus Comments by Jack Presscot: Glen Johnson beats a Prime Roy Jones :deal You know what, I'll just stop there :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl Now answer my post above.
You should go watch the fight again. Now your just making yourself look silly. Oscars punches while he had Floyd up against the ropes might not have been landing cleanly every time, they were effective though. things have been twisted around here and Floyds performance has been overrated. He was not constantly pulling the perfect 'rope-a-dope' and countering the **** out of Oscar. He had his moments and landed some very good shots, but for the most part he did absolutely nothing but keep his hands up and then grab Oscar when he backed into the ropes. Keeping your opponent up against the ropes with his hands up, fighting completely defensive is EFFECTIVE. It's effective in that you are preventing him from mounting his own offensive attack, again....defense by offense. How it hurts you, is that it takes energy and may cost you late....which it did, but for the time you can keep it up you are winning the fight. Look at it this way, where would you rather be....the guy standing there with your hands up not throwing, or the guy throwing punches, landing clean or not. In that situation only one of you has any chance to land clean....and its the guy actually throwing. :deal
What point was that? round? And don't be so naive, Oscar traded with Mosley, Quartey, vargas, took shots from Tito and pressed the action early against Hopkins. Even if he did underestimate Floyds power, it didn't deter him.....be reasonable now atsch
The only reason Shane Mosley doesn't beat Mayweather is age, A five year younger Mosley walks right through Mayweather. In Mosley worst lost, to Vernon Forrester, he was unable to over come Forrester reach advantage. I didn't see how Mayweather won that fight in the first place, Oscar was the aggrassor and rountinely tagged Mayweather. I think the judges were watching another fight.