Floyd's acknowledged as P4P #1

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  1. Addie

    Addie Myung Woo Yuh! Full Member

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    Floyd couldn't "Gatti" Hatton when Ricky was fighting at his worst weight, care to explain your logic BigReg?

    True, Floyd the devastating puncher who knocked out blown up Super Featherweight Juan Manuel Marquez. ...Oh, hold up.

    It'd be the same result as the Pacquiao fight, could get stopped sooner, but has no relevance regardless.
     
  2. Marnoff

    Marnoff Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    1. He never lost that recognition in the ring.

    2. He just dominated Mosley and Marquez prior to that.

    3. He CLEARLY is the best fighter in the world.
     
  3. Addie

    Addie Myung Woo Yuh! Full Member

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    Well...there we have it guys. Compelling argument here. Read it and read it again. :good
     
  4. BigReg

    BigReg Broad Street Bully Full Member

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    Pacquiao couldn't knock out Larios who was coming up two divisions and was coming off a stoppage loss. So either the Marquez fight is irrelevant to Mayweather knocking out a totally different fighter, or Pacquiao really is on steroids which is why he can stop WWs but not 122 lbers coming up two divsions.
     
  5. dubfire

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    They're both about equal, unless you have either one of their balls in your mouth.
     
  6. Addie

    Addie Myung Woo Yuh! Full Member

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    BigReg, you're better than this.

    The Floyd Mayweather of today couldn't knockout Marquez.

    The Manny of today is stopping virtually every fighter put in front of him.
     
  7. drkjck

    drkjck Active Member Full Member

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    not only will pac will dominate the same mosely and marquez that mayweather fought, he will destroy them..thats just how pac works.
     
  8. Addie

    Addie Myung Woo Yuh! Full Member

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    Shane Mosley who was breathing heavily after three rounds would have been in deep **** against Pacquiao.
     
  9. drkjck

    drkjck Active Member Full Member

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    pac fighting larios is like years ago! the thing about pac is that he is getting better and better..and that steroid thing is just a lame excuse mayweather did to get out of the fight.its clear that he thinks that pac is strong because he thinks hes on roids..
     
  10. BigReg

    BigReg Broad Street Bully Full Member

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    It's pointless explaining the logic to you, but I'll try. Mayweather was a better fighter at 140 than 147. He was faster, and let his hands go more. The fight would also be fought with 8 oz. gloves instead of 10 oz. gloves. From Hatton's perspective, he has to come down from around 180 lbs. to make weight. That means he he would have to drain himself less to make 147 rather than 140 lbs. This means he's stronger and fresher at 147. He rehydrates to 152 or so when he's at 140 anyway, so it's not like he would have to worry about putting on more muscle.

    The only reason he couldn't fight at 147 on a regular basis is because his game is based on strength and impossing his will. Most of the guys at 147 are coming in at around 160 lbs., which would make Hatton smaller than them and would render his style much less effective. Now this wouldn't be the case against Mayweather as he usually rehydrates to around 148 or so. You can talk all you want about Hatton struggling against Collazo, but you have to factor in the opponent. Collazo is a tough stlye matchup for Hatton. It wasn't his size that was the biggest problem for Hatton. Mayweather struggled in his first fight at 135 lbs. Does this mean he can't compete at a high level above 130 lbs.? Of course not.

    What about the devastating power Pac showed when he was at Super featherweight and fought a blown up Jr. featherweight. Oh wait, he didn't stop Larios. I guess he would never stop anyone at 130 or higher.:roll:

    Pacquiao hypotheticially KO'ing Marquez at 147 or stopping Shane in 6 rounds is irrelevant as well. Which is why I responded the way I did.
     
  11. Sunchild78

    Sunchild78 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    1. Hatton clearly got out boxed when he fought Mayweather, from the opening bell till he got KOd. By the third rd he was already cut from Floyds straight rights. Commentators made it seem closer then what it was, but anyone with eyes could see they were full of ****. If the fight took place in MaCh, in Hattons living room or on the moon, it would not have changed the fact that Floyd was the better boxer of the two.

    2.De la hoyle was a pro, but was in better shape when he fought Floyd then he was when he fought Pac. In the fight with Pac, although Oscar naturally is the bigger man, he was not so on that night. (due to a catch weight that suited Pac) Maybe so in height, but his body looked major puny compared to Pac who is naturally the smaller man. Mayweather who's naturally smaller then Oscar looked just like that in there fight. Both men not just one was in shape, and the better man won.

    3. Cotto became damaged goods after Margarito beat the snot out of him with two cast on his fist. This is before Pac and Cotto met, just in case you forgot. The only reason why Roach went after Cotto was because he knew Cotto was damaged, and if that's not enough, they fought at a catch weight to suite Pac.
     
  12. BigReg

    BigReg Broad Street Bully Full Member

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    Mosley was breathing heavily after 3 rounds against Cotto.
     
  13. fytelod

    fytelod Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    1. You mean his retirement/inactivity won't affect his P4P ranking forever?

    2. PAC knocking out Cotto and Hatton then dominating Clottey easily top that.

    3. Not clear at all. Pacquiao awarded "Fighter of the Decade" accolade not Floyd.
     
  14. BigReg

    BigReg Broad Street Bully Full Member

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    Name me one fighter who has ever stopped Marquez? Are you really trying to tell me that Pacquiao, at the age of 30, has moved up 3 divisions in two years and has actually increased his power? That doesn't seem very likely. Either Pacquiao is fighting handpicked guys that made for him to look good against, and/or he's on something.
     
  15. Addie

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    Dude...he fought Aturo Gatti, DeMarcus Corley, and Henry Bruseles at 140lbs. :huh He wasn't a better fighter, he was just fighting C level fighters.

    Like I said, the Manny Pacquiao of today is devastating practically everybody's he's fighting. To bring up Pacquiao of 126 of 130 is to be stupid, he's an infinitely more destructive fighter today.

    Indeed, as long you realize that Hatton isn't getting the Gatti treatment at 140lbs and that Cotto isn't being blitzed by concussive punching Floyd at 147lbs either. :good