For my 5,000th post : My Pound-for-Pound Top 50 Fighters of All-Time..

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I don't think there is an argument.

You have Marciano right about where he should be; ditto for Hopkins.

 

Ring magazine rated Lewis as the best 2 years ago.

 

OH MY GOD NO JACK JOHNSON


Johnson won the World Coloured Heavyweight title and the full World heavyweight title loads of times.
Jack Johnson bt Sam Langford {Number 2 on your list}
Jack Johnson bt Bob Fitzsimmons {Number 12 on your list with a 2nd round ko}
I have no problem with Langford or Fitzsimmons rankings, but Johnson should also be on the list {well up}.


I would have Barbadoes Joe and Kid Gavilan lower and would not have Ted
Kid Lewis,Jack Britton or LM Rodriguez in the top 50, instead of those 3
i would have Jack Johnson,
Fighting Harada who beat Jofre {27 on your list} twice, although i would not have him higher than Jofre and Joe Calzaghe who beat Roy Jones {17 on list} and Bernard Hopkins {32 on list} although yet again not higher than Jones and Hopkins,but that could change.

 

Great post Pacfan, I love the list.

 

i take atg lists as a bit of fun.

i prefer that they do the atg lists in weightclasses rather than overall as it is very diffucult to comapare weightclasses and fighters over 100 year span.

nothing to do with pacmans choice talking about in general on magazines like ring and ko over the years.

i always notice that heavys are never rated at the time period they fight in as ATG.
for example i dont think there is a fighter above light heavy in the ring rankings and yet on anyones all time lists they make up by far the biggest majority on any list.

there must be a third of fighters on the list who fought for the heavyweight title.

funny enough langford from reading about him if my old memory serves me right never got a heavyweight chance and never fought for a world title in his whole career.

 

well past their prime, STOP trying to get Calzaghe in the top 50 you nuthuggers

 

Although I am not always for ranking the old time fighters so high ( doesn't seem now that they will ever lost their ranking to new great fighters) ,

I love that you have Monzon in the top 10, he definitely deserves it

 

i always treat them as such .
just a bit of fun.
wlad and vitali beat every fighter in the world in most head to heads but are never rated.

impossible to rank a flyweight against a heavy.