Foreman vs Frazier 1

It's entirely possible that Foreman was standing on the scale at the time that stare-down picture was taken.

I've pointed this out many times in the past but it usually get's ignored.Worst of all,Wlad doesn't even recieve credit for attempting to get to get back up like Frazier did,either.

 

Foreman beats any frazier hundred out of hundred.

 

It's like your reading my mind

 

Frazier starts too slow; he has to start getting a rhythm and timing to a person's punches before he can really start slipping and avoiding shots (shown during FOTC when he is able to stand with his hands down and avoiding Ali's shot).

Foreman starts too strong and is physically stronger then Joe.. so Joe can't force the inside game.. and shown by Foreman just shoving Joe back the few times Joe did get close to him.

((For the Record - I think Wlad has a Chin, I think Tyson has a Chin, I think Foreman has a Chin... their KD's result from lack of gas in the tank.. not lack of beard on the face.))

 

Great minds think alike :good

 

My earlier post,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,I was incorrect,,,,,,,,

A more complete photo, with George standing on the scale-base.

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I think people were shocked he won. Stylistically he had Joe's number.

 

SHOCKED,,,,,,,,was an UNDERSTATEMENT.

Most boxing experts thought that George would be lucky to last as
long as Ron Stander.

Ring Magazine; 'George has built up his record against a bunch of 'softies',
and he has not even beaten one 'toughie', let alone face one.
After the Championship fight Monday night, we are sure we will never
here from George Foreman again. Or maybe, in 4 more years
after another '38' bouts against a second wave of softies.'

Dick Young; 'Oh, this will nothing more than a work-out for the Champion.
As soon as Frazier whips one of those left hooks by Foreman's nose,
the Challenger will smell fear and either crash to the canvas in the
First Round, or not come out for the Second Round. I have my whole
Monday night planned, as there will not be a Third Round.

 

Few have claimed Frazier had an iron chin. It was respectable, but far from iron.

 

Agree about the first knockdown. It might possibly have been a delayed reaction to an earlier punch, but it was very strange.

The second knockdown from the huge Foreman uppercut was the decider, imo. Not many heavies get up from that one.

 

This was right in the middle of my 'boxing jones'.
In retrospect, I think Ali took a major chunk out of Joe after their FOTC.
But, none of us thought the young George would be ready for Joe...stupid us.
The fight was only closed circuit and we decided not to lay down the bucks. No radio either. In the glorious days of great music, we were self-medicating ourselves and playing cards at my friends house. About 10:45 my late friend Mike said: "Why don't you call the newspaper sports line and see how Frazier-Foreman turned out?"
I called and the guy said: "That was Foreman on a 2nd round TKO!"
I hung up the phone and my buds said: "Well?"
"Ahhh, I'm not sure, let me call again." I did, same result and then I told them.
We were totally in shock over the result.
I think many, at the time, felt the same way.

 

Many claim that the FOTC took alot out of 'Smokin Joe',,,,,

But the truth,,,,,,,

'Smokin Joe' was already showing signs of 'slippage' in 1970 'gym work-outs'

'Smokin Joe' was in his prime in 1968/1969/1970 - not in 1971 at the FOTC.

After his leg injury (broken right ankle and knee injury) while performing on stage at Caeser's Palace in March 1970
with his 'musical revue' in 1970 - 'Smokin Joe' was never the same.

When hit hard, 'Smokin Joe's' right leg would give out....

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I disagree,Smitty. Frazier was simply made for Foreman. Styles maketh the fight and all that. The 1971 Frazier may have put up a better fight against George,but would still be knocked out within five rounds.

 

Good post. I agree with every word.

Joe WAS favored substantially and the 6-kd beating he took was the worst ever taken by a heavyweight champ. It was an upset for sure. Though George was thought of reasonably highly going in . . . coming out he was thought of as a monster.

 

Lasting memory......

Howard Cosell,,,,,,

An 'excited' and brilliant call of the bout,,,,,,with a 'calm' Angelo Dundee by his side.