Four Boxing Guru's Debate Ali Vs Tyson

Lots of fighters in history would beat Mike Tyson

 

"Lots" meaning "about 7 at most," of course.

 

Tell that to Tony Bruno, knocked out in the first round....

 

They ask 'Who did he fight though?', that's easy

Tony Bruno
Frank Tucker
Larry Spinks
Michael Holmes
Trevor Tubbs
Buster Berbick

Now Evander Douglas may have had his number but come on guys he took out Tony Bruno in the first round and who could forget his destruction of Lennox Golota

 

:rofl

PP, he didn´t look good against Mitch "Bonegrinder" Smith.....

 

Yea suppose that loud talking guru with his bleach blonde hair was right, I mean Muhammed Ali made that big scary Cassius Liston guy quit

 

I've come to terms with the reality that tyson was exceptional, but stylistically he isn't as good against ali as frazier was.

Frazier would beat ali prime for prime imo.

The reality is, the closest match to ali tyson ever fought is probably buster douglas and he got his arse handed to him.

As a side note, prime for prime, there's no way holyfield survives a brawl with mike the way he did ten years later.

 

Buster Douglas DID beat Tyson. Not just beat him, but really kicked the crap out of him.
non-Rooney, un-trained, over-confident, 80%, 70% 50% Tyson, whatever.

Realistically, you have to figure several other fighters would be able to beat Tyson. I mean, if you include ALL fighters from all history.

 

Don't think it would be an easy fight for either man.. While I definitely favor Ali, it wouldn't be a given.. Ali had a well documented weakness for left hooks and Tyson threw a left that was lethal. I could see Muhammad getting once or multiple times. Furthermore, if we're talking about a pre-Douglas Tyson who had the right people in his corner, did everything he was supposed to do in the gym and without all the BS going on in his life outside the ring, he could pose a serious threat.

 

I agree. Same with quite a lot of greats in history really. Very few survive an unbeaten career.

 

:good

 

Yep. Styles make fights.
Even with the absolute best fighter in history, (whoever that is), there will be a few guys with the style and ability to beat him.
And Tyson wasn't that guy, so I figure there must be more than a few.

 

I still can't think which welter i'd favour over a prime robinson but inevitably there'll be a handful who would.

 

Not a real version of Tyson. It is a more poor example than haters think.

Watch it again - Look how strangely sloth snail slow Tyson is, were is his quickness? On a ****ing holiday? It was like he was yanked out of bed with a banging hangover from hell burning in his brain. Severely sleep deprived too it looks like. He could not even be arsed to keep his guard to and block incoming punches, let alone move his head to be evasive. It was seriously like his reflexes were shot that night to punish him for abusing his body in the months before the fight. It caught up to him. Sleep deprivation and recreational drug abuse always. always has to catch up to you eventually. I have been told and read Tyson really partied like a mother****er in Tokyo of 1990, lots of booze, lots of coke to the point of white line fever, tons of Ecstasy. Then drained as much water weight as he could manage in the sauna to be light on fight night, but that makes men sluggish and leaves your brain with a unsafe level of cerebral fluid for taking concussions to the head. many weeks of only eating a salad 'meal' to lose weight by starvation dieting left him nutritionally dangerously drained and lacking energy you get from real food and a balanced diet. He was not even turning up to the gym or doing roadwork so his team of terry-****wits did it without him. All his sparring partners were kicking his butt and he did a worrying low amount of sparring. To top it all off his corner were braindead morons of the highest order who gave him emo-like negativity self-defeating advice not fit for a clubfighter.