Frampton opponent announced tomorrow

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  1. BoxingAnalyst

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    Arsen Martirosyan, In a 10 rounder.

    Would be interesting to gauge what level Carl is at, Martirosyan is a decent european level operator.
     
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    Hirales is undefeated but when you look closley at his level of opposition has been really poor and he has draws, sd and md's agaisnt guys with losing records.
     
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    Joe Gallagher ‏ @gallaghersgym
    Never knew Kiko Martinez changed his name to Raul hilares who last fight was split decision win against 5-8 kid what happened kiko next ??

    :lol:

    I really think Frampton looks very good, and the kid wants to fight best opponent available, but Hearn want to make us think Hilares is some kind of Abner Mares or Kochulito, and he is not. Casey, Gallahad, Martyrosian and of course Kiko would make a better fight.
     
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    Maybe "he's Mexican so he'll be good" could become the new "never been stopped" :think
     
  6. Tommy O C

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    The Huerta win is a good win, better than any of Framptons wins. I dont mind this fight, its a step in the right direction. No point in just jumping straight from Kris Hughes/Prosper Ankrah to World level fights. Its a good yard stick. With all the hype its as if Frampton is forcing himself into a level of fight he doesnt deserve ( Barrys fault ) before hes ready. He has really fought noone thus far so at least this moves him along a bit
     
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    I don't understand the problem, Hirales is a solid step up. Put it another way not only is he better than anyone Frampton has faced, he is also better than anyone Scott Quigg has faced. The Jackal shouldn't go from the likes of Chris Hughes, Prosper Ankrah and Mark Quon to Kiko Martinez, that could IMO be poor match making for a young prospect.
     
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    He's Cocobolo tough :deal
     
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    #let's see
     
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    Yep. Framptons people have let him down badly. This is the third time that Quigg has outdone him in competition.
     
  11. Big Ears

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    Exactly, I can't believe we have people here complaining when a fighter is taking a step up against an opponent that's substantially better than anyone he's faced so far.

    Hirales is undeafeated, which doesn't mean anything anymore in terms of quality but is likely to increase the chances he won't just be coming to lie down. People are complaining he's struggled to SD, MD and D's in his career so far. Well yes, but he also beat Jorge Cardenas (when Cardenas was coming off a draw vs Wilfredo Vasquez jnr).
    He drew with Fernando Vargas, and yes Vargas' best win is probably a 1st round stoppage of Arthur Camargo, however Vargas has 4 SD losses which indicate he might have a bit about him. 3 against decent prospects, Felipe Orucuta, Daniel Rosas (who drew an interim World title fight recently) and Jose Cayetano, and the other vs former World champion and IBF mandatory Juan Alberto Rosas. So You can take it from that, that Vargas probably isn't too bad and a draw with him isn't necessarily a bad result.

    Hirales has also beat Charles Huerta, who was a highly regarded prospect till he suffered a shock knockout defeat. He had started to build up his career and reputation to a reasonable level again till he ran into Hirales, who outpointed him over 8 hard fought rounds (which are on youtube). Huerta's not a bad fighter, and that's certainly an impressive win for Hirales.

    Hirales then beat Enrique Bernache at the bad end of last year. Bernache had beaten the 25-0 Ramon Maas, and followed it up with a win over 2 time World title challenger (and talented fighter) Alejandro Valdez to capture the Mexican Super-Bantamweight title.

    So when he's fighting at that level in what is still the relatively early stages of a career I don't think you can blame Hirales for a few SD's here and there. He's managed to come through it all without a loss, and while a SD win over a journeyman in his last fight doesn't spark confidence, it was only over 6 rounds, and all of that journeyman's losses come to undefeated fighters in their back yard.

    When Frampton starts taking steps backward, and when he stops fighting regularly.....then is the time to complain. Until then enjoy things as they are, because Frampton vs Hirales should provide us with an action packed scrap.
     
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    People moan about fighters not being active enough, then when they are it's the level of opposition. Then if the guys undefeated people nit pick the level of guys record.

    Fighters can't win, it's not a great fight but far from bad. It's good he's getting international level experience against a kid who will come to win and is undefeated.

    For Gallagher's comments, Quigg's record till recent times was as padded as jailbaits bra.
     
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    Floyd Cotto dun crashed the damn site for moment there..
     
  14. ImElvis666

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    That's not exactly fair. Frampton has had 13 fights. It took Quigg 22 fights to fight a guy around the level of the Mexican Frampton will be facing.
     
  15. tdw

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    The reason Frampton is getting stick for this though is because of the stuff his camp have said about Munroe-Quigg