Frankie Gavin Out

Discussion in 'British Boxing Forum' started by LiamE, Aug 6, 2008.


  1. Claypole

    Claypole Boxing Addict banned

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    All I've been hearing recently is how great our boxers (and the rest of the British team) are going to do at these Olympics. Now this. What a load of f***ing bollocks.
    I'm not going to blame the boxer for this, it's the team behind him. It seems the weight thing has been an issue for some time now, so I'm wondering what other sort of stuff is being kept from us.
     
  2. Bodysnatcher

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  3. LeadLeftHook

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    Most here are pretending like Gavin was asked to fight a weight class below what he qualified and shifting the blame to everyone but the boxer himself.

    Gavin won gold at lightweight at the world amatuers in October 2007, which means that he was very good at lightweight. He fought also at lighweight for qualifiers in Feb\Mar?

    Now only a few months later with all the training, you're telling me a 23 old has to suddenly kill himself to make weight. What BS!!!

    The expectations and media hype may have made him a little big headed too soon. To me this seems like an issue of lack of respect disciple and compalacy on Gavins part.
     
  4. ishy

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    No, winning the World's qualified him automatically for the Olympics. He didn;t need to take part in the qualifiers. Since the Worlds Frankie has only fought at light welter. Apparently during the Worlds he had to train for two hours AFTER each fight to make weight for the next round. THis clearly shows that he has been struggling at the weight.
     
  5. icemax

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    Obviously
     
  6. scrap

    scrap Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Left Hook you make a good point, I doubt its anybodys fault that includes Gavin. Its pure circumstance this has happened, you cant sling the guy whose qualified out at Lt Welter. This is just a guess but they must spar in the squad and the people watching know Amatuer Boxing, we are taking a team to China the biggest for a very long time so they must be doing something right. You here the critics shouting but theres nothing constructive.
     
  7. Bodysnatcher

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  8. icemax

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    Have a ****ing word with yourself. Gavin won the gold at the European Union Amateur Boxing Championships on 22nd June 2008 at light welterweight. To expect an amateur to drop 4Kgs of muscle mass in 7 weeks and keep it off during a week long tournament is completely idiotic. Gavin is only guilty of going along with this stupid plan, the real culprits are the support staff around him who thought it was a good idea to stick a natural light welter into a competition as a lightweight. **** wits.
     
  9. GazOC

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    I'm not that well up on amateur boxing, but having won the Worlds at Lightweight did he then have to go to the Olympics at that weight to use that qualification? If he was tight at the weight couldn't he have entered the qualifiers as a Light Welter?
     
  10. riot187

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    If the weight problems are long standing why was he not moved up to LW or W or whatever. Sorry, but have to ask the question with all the money that has allegedly been pumped into British Amateur Boxing. Don't expect to see him in 2012 now. Have to agree with the concensus that he won't make that much noise when he turns over. A bit like Audley in that the style seems too amateurish (no disrespect I just mean geared toward point scoring rather than hurting). He could change that though and hope he will. seems a nice lad and I am genuinely sad for him having his dream snatched from him. I mean just imagine. Shiiiit.
     
  11. Max Molyneux

    Max Molyneux Liverpool Liver Tickler Full Member

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    Hatton's a pro and can dehydrate to make weight due to the weighs Ins being a day before the fight, you can't do that In the amateurs. Kerry Kaye's conditioning ways are way too professional and bodybuilding.

    He's capitalised well off Hatton being a sucess so fair play to him for taking full advantage.
     
  12. Max Molyneux

    Max Molyneux Liverpool Liver Tickler Full Member

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    It's not amatuer when there getting paid, especially that much!

    The ABA are wasting money bad, they need to get rid of the old ****ers In the blazers.
     
  13. Big Ears

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    Bradley Saunders also qualified from the World Championships(at Light-Welterweight) and is a prospect for a medal. Now I'm not sure, but maybe they could have got Gavin to try and qualify and then have a box-off against Sanders for the spot. Or they could take a chance and try and get 2 medals from it rather than just going for one. They gambled and they got it wrong.
     
  14. GazOC

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    Cheers BE, I knew about Saunders and I've seen him box, he looks very good. Thanks for the explaination, its pretty much what I figured. A box-off was probably the best option (hindsight and all that) and Gavin is paying the price.
     
  15. girv

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    At least if he turns pro now, which he probably will, he will get the chance to progress under the radar without the ridiculous expectation that Amir Khan faced for a young pro - albeit he has fallen for his own hype somewhat.

    It may not make him so much money at the start but in the long run it could turn out better for him.