Freddie Roach calls Marquez a p****

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  1. Desert Storm

    Desert Storm 31-0 Full Member

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    You have some valid points, but destroyed yourself by the name calling and clearly showing your bias. Had you been speaking in a regular tone, then people would take what you say more serious rather than calling you a "*******" (seems like if you do not agree that Marquez is clean you are automatically a "*******"?)
     
  2. JohnnyDrama99

    JohnnyDrama99 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Marquez isn't a *****....Obviously. He's smart. Boxing at this level...against the same guy is playing into the "ODDS" factor. Eventually someone will get the opportunity that produces a definitive outcome. A 5th fight could just as easily produce another KO where Juan is the one peeling himself off the canvas....why play those odds when you can go out a winner?

    I understand PAC and Freddie's frustrations but I can definitely understand why JMM rather not dance with PAC again.....he wasn't exactly bustin' Manny up before he found the shot heard round the world.
     
  3. Anglosaxon

    Anglosaxon FASTEST HANDS ON ESB Full Member

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    My ''name calling'' is more directed at the *****'s who became Marqueers due to the hail mary and doesn't detract from the points.

    On PED use, well he was in the best shape of his life, he went from looking very soft and slightly plump against Mayweather to a very ripped vascular boxer, PED's, if I had to put money on it, I would say he juiced, but I think Mayweather did too which is evident in his bacne, increased muscle mass, rage and paranoia. Pac doesn't really have any of the tale tale signs nor the connections to dubious sources Mayweather and Marqueerz have.
     
  4. ElCyclon

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    plus the fact that you've convinced yourself both JMM and Floyd have used PED's but Pac has NOT====Classic symptoms of full-on *******ism.:deal
     
  5. pushthrough

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    you're just marqueer, *****, or a *******! :patsch

    how old are you ******s? :rofl
     
  6. freddy-wak

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    he has already smacked up many 3 times and slept him once, nothing left to prove there....glad he's moved on to tighten his legacy instead of another money fight....Mexicans run boxing, fact !!!!
     
  7. ElCyclon

    ElCyclon Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Old enough to spot a ****** when I see one!:good


    ^^^^^^^^:hi:
     
  8. MrPR

    MrPR Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    He's just trying to bait him for a 5th fight . Freddie doesn't believe that at all . He knows Marquez is far from a ***** . Juan went to war with a beast like Manny "4 times" . He will forever be praised for that alone .
     
  9. DobyZhee

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    and he deserves it.:happy
     
  10. gurby22

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    Exactly. Before the third fight was even made, this ****Roach was saying he didn't even want to fight Marquez, that's why it was put off for so long. You *******s know this too, If you wanna call BS ill go through the trouble of finding the vid.
     
  11. divac

    divac Loyal Member Full Member

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    Marquez will gladly grant Pacquiao a rematch when he gets paid what he's owed over the 2nd, 3rd, and 4th fights where Marquez got paid peanuts in comparison to Pacquiao.

    You dont pay Marquez and he's perfectly fine with ending the series of fights unbeaten with the last being a definitive brutal KO!

    BTW clowns, had Paquiao gotten up from the 6th round knockdown, every judge would have had Marquez up a point!
    There goes that assumption down the drain about Pacquiao dealing and leading comfortably.:deal
     
  12. Scar

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    Yes he did offer an immediate rematch after the first fight yet Marquez priced his self out only to fight Chris John on a PPV that literally sold 0. Fact is, it was Pacquiao who gave Marquez a shot back when nobody wanted to, even his Mexican "brethren" Morales and Barrera didn't bother with him. It's not Pacquiao's fault he was able to move on and successfully move up in weight. When Marquez followed, he always got a shot. Don't think we would have FOUR fights done already if Pacquiao wasn't interested in him.
     
  13. purephase

    purephase Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Again with the Top Rank spin on what transpired. A request to negotiate is not equivalent to pricing oneself out and the entire point of the John fight was to get the hell out of his Top Rank contract thanks to such repeated mistreatment.

    Regardless no immediate rematch ever did in fact transpire, and no immediate rematch was ever offered following Pacquiao's (far more disputable) official victories in the series.
    Pacquiao's interest in rematches extended to when the perceived risk/reward was deemed appropriate, nothing more and nothing less. The rematches did not occur because he wanted to be fair to Marquez or because of his pride or because of his fighter spirit, but simply because Marquez was the opponent who made the most financial sense at that point in time.
     
  14. DeadLikeMe

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    Marquez should be a true warrior like Pacman and make Pac wait a few years and have to chase him back down to 140. Also Marquez should refuse all blood tests because it weakens him and he is scared of needles. If he refuse it proves he is clean and Bradley/Pac are roadblocking ducking cowards who are scared of the fight.
     
  15. liljp361

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    yeah I've gotta agree after their last fight when JMM started teasing to retire it was kind of a ***** move