Freddie Roach's Fight Plan Into Beating Floyd

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  1. elTerrible

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    I just watched some of it today. PBF threw 490 something and landed almost 60%. JMM threw around 580 and landed 12%.


    I know Pac aint JMM but I was surprised PBF threw almost 500 shots cause it was more than I remembered and Pac's best chance is to outwork him.

    You can see how Pac got frustrated with Cotto was backing up and moving. You can also see how JMM had a way of getting Pac to slow down and box with him. So between the two I think PBF can get Pac frustrated and slowed down towards the mid to late rounds and get an UD.
     
  2. elTerrible

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    He has an excellent lead right which is always good for southpaws.
     
  3. Moneyman

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    I didn't mean that Manny will out jab Floyd I'm saying that he can out work him and put rounds in the bank like Oscar did in their fight.

    I really cannot see either fighter stopping the other fighter so lets assume it's going to the cards. In that case all you have to do is win seven rounds and I think that Manny can get an early lead by out working Floyd and then forcing him to be more agressive later in the fight in order to try to win rounds. This will throw Floyd off his normal game plan. Remember I have never seen Floyd fight anyone with Manny's speed before, I'd put him ahead of Judah which BTW was how many years ago?

    I think Manny has been in with better oppostion and has carried his power upward in weight better. Also not enough is being said of him being the south paw here, that in of it self gives him a slight advantage over Floyd's latest list of opponents.

    This could come down to the weight. If they fight at 145, I say Manny wins. If Floys is allowed to come in at 147, or he screws Manny over like he did to JMM, Floyd probably wins.
     
  4. makeitrain

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    cant wait to see mannys new movie
     
  5. Boxing Fanatic

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    He definitely has slowed. He is not the same fighter who last fought Manny. Diaz, who got creamed by Campbell, was beating him until the KO. And against Floyd, he showed how much he has slowed down. Because if that was Pac in there, he would of been face first on the canvas by now. Floyd could of KHO, but, as usual Floyd boxed.
     
  6. Boxing Fanatic

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    Definitely Pac will have to be the aggressor. Floyd is gonna do his usual back pedalling, so, Manny is gonna have to unload. I think Manny's speed will be a key for him. Floyd can dance and dodge all day with anybody, but, Manny has the power and speed to back Floyd up. Judah had the key against him, until Floyd figured him out. "U got speed, mothfugga, guess what, so do I!":lol: Floyd is one of the best fighters I've seen who can adjust in a middle of a fight. Amazing.
     
  7. anarci

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    HEY MONEYMAN WHY ARE YOU QUOTING,ME THEN TAKING MY NAME OUT AND ACTING LIKE YOU SAID IT:shock::patsch I KNOW I SAY SOME SMART **** HERE ON ESB BUT DAMN. PLAGURISM ON ESB:?
     
  8. Moneyman

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    I was responding to your quote.
     
  9. anarci

    anarci Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    My bad then. :lol: I guess it was the way it was it was worded after the quote.
     
  10. PH|LLA

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    Very solid post almost completely agree
     
  11. carias

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    He looked remarkably slow and it wasn't all floyd. It had plenty to do with the weight he had put on.
     
  12. Nay_Sayer

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    Floyd has more trouble with southpaws?

    Since when?
     
  13. Moneyman

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    He fights them in a slightly different way.
     
  14. Moneyman

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    And really when is the last time he fought a good south paw fighter? Or when is the last time he fought anyone with Manny's speed?
     
  15. tliang1000

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    I think people put too much on previous fights. Castillo was in prime, Judah didn't get beat up by everyone yet. Different times and scenerios. I think Manny is in for a complicated and fustrated fight. Manny carries enough power to ko floyd but thats if he lands. Floyd will land on manny. He is very accurate puncher and hard to hit. Even if Manny have a great workrate both can't use it due to floyd's movements and counters.