Froch a Top 10 Pound for Pounder

1. Money
2. Marquez
3. Ward
4. Rigo
5. Wlad
6. Pac
7. Donaire
8. Mares
9. Froch - lost to top in division, better opponents than Bradley's.
10. Bradley - lost to top in division, worse opponents than Froch's.

Martinez is not in it anymore. He lost to Murray IMO AND looked past prime. At his age, there's no coming back.

 

I have Froch rooted at #9 P4P

I would never have dreamt this possible 4 years ago.

 

1. Mayweather Jr
2. Ward
3. Marquez
4. Wlad
5. Mares
6. Rigondeaux
7. Pacquiao
8. Donaire
9. Froch
10. Martinez

 

not bad. mine is:

Money
Ward
Wlad
Martinez
Marquez
Pac
Froch
Rigo
Donaire
Mares
Bradley

 

He definitely deserves to be in there!

Mayweather
Ward
Marquez
Martinez
Wlad
Rigondeaux
Froch
Pacquiao
Mares
Donaire

 

It has gotten more difficult to make the p4p top 10 recently with Rigo, Mares and now Froch making solid claims not to be out of it.

Mayweather - obvious choice
Marquez - Win over Pac sees him higher than Ward
Ward - Good recent resume, skilled. Could be future num 1
Rigo - Super skilled, schooled a top 4 guy last time
Wlad - Most dominant champ around today, so much better than the others in his division
Pac - Beat Bradley, was winning until ko6 against fellow ATG, still deserves his place here
Martinez - Slipped a little when looking poor vs Murray, but still prevailed. His days in p4p are now numbered though you feel
Mares - Good win over PDL cemented his place. Multiple weight champ.
Donaire - Schooled by Rigo but top 4 before that loss and fighter of the year 2012
Froch - Two very good wins vs Bute and Kessler have him in top 10. Great toughness

Broner - Drops from my list due to lack of depth in resume. Will be back in when/if he beats Malunaggi well
Bradley - Lost to Pacquaio and went life and death with his sparring partner

 

Excellent list but I would have Froch a couple of places higher.

 

Here's mine
1. Floyd Mayweather Jr.
2. Juan Manuel Marquez
3. Sergio Gabriel Martinez
4. Andre Ward
5. Wladimir Klitschko
6. Manny Pacquiao
7. Abner Mares
8. Carl Froch
9. Guillermo Rigondeaux
10. Nonito Donaire

 

This.

With PAC and Donaire losing, Martinez semi retires and looking poor, and Rigo only having one great win, Froch could feasibly be number 5 or 6 which is ****ing mental.

1. Floyd
2. Marquez
3. Ward
4. Martinez
5. Froch
6. Mares
7. Rigondeaux
8. Wlad
9. Donaire
10. Pacquiao

Skill wise, rigondeaux is higher but he only has one big win. Martinez and PAC will be gone soon IMO and Wlad has a slight drop due to poor competition.

 

:deal

 

Broner should be no where near the top 10, Martinez lost against Murray so he should be out

Froch has a better claim to the top 10 than both of the above

 

LOL At ppl putting Wlad in top 10 P4P for fighting bums but not even having Froch top 10

Kessler 2
Yusaf Mack
Lucian Bute
Andre Ward
Glen Johnson
Arthur Abraham
Mikkel Kessler
Andre Dirrell
Jermain Taylor
Jean Pascal

Now compare that to the bum of the month club

 

My personal take:

1. Mayweather
2. Marquez*
2. Ward*
4. W Klitschko
5. Rigondeaux
6. Donaire**
7. Pacquiao
8. Mares
9. Bradley
10. Hopkins^

* I have Marquez and Ward tied since, depending on the day and how I am thinking, I may reverse the order of ranking them.
** I think Donaire should not fall as much as I have seen on most peoples' lists. He only lost to Rigondeaux, who was quite a tough challenge. He still has a stellar record and skillset. He just needs to get back to work.
^ P4P is subjective and allows for emphasis and synthesis of achievements, resume, H2H (in one's class and P4P), etc, but I think that in viewing all 3 of those combined, Hopkins barely eeks out over Froch. Froch has a great resume, but I just don't think he would be successful if he moved up to 175. Conversely, Hopkins has done well from 160 through 175, and I think can beat or at least be competitive with a good number of cruiserweights. I also think he can engage a pretty fair catchweight with respect to the super middleweight division, and I further opine he can beat most SMWs.

I guess I should express with that last paragraph that the #10 spot is a toss-up between Froch and Hopkins for me, but the rationale I offered is why I think Hopkins makes it into the list instead of Carl.

 

Mayweather
Ward
Marquez
Rigondeaux
Pacquiao
Martinez
Klitschko
Donaire
Mares
Bradley/Froch