Froch VS Steve Collins, Eubank, BENN

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  1. SWAGGER

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    any more verdicts I think froch beats all of them as look how much eubank struggled with ray close & rockygianni who froch would of dealt with and froch wud of stopped henry warton who benn had a good fight with.

    Collins froch would of been a great war but froch would win a decision imo froch is 6'1 with a 77inch reach I think ppl forget hes quite a big guy where as benn an eubank were jr middles and middleweights b4 moving up to supermiddle
     
  2. MAJR

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    No the "deepest" era of Super Middleweight boxing the was early 1990s. Look at the names in the division. Jones, Toney, Nunn, Liles, Eubank, Benn, Watson, Collins, McClellan. That was the golden era of the division.

    By contrast Froch's era has had only three standout fighters - Froch, Kessler and Ward - one of them - Kessler - is a relic of Calzaghe's era and beat Froch three years before Froch beat him.

    Froch is a great fighter but his qualities are overblown and overrated.
     
  3. lencoreastside

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    Benn is about 5'9" at most way too small for Froch. Eubank and Collins were huge middleweights ...as an amateur the young Steve fought at weights up to cruiser I think, and Eubank really struggled to make middle before moving up. But Froch is too big, too strong, too fit and too tough even for them. They couldn't cope with him IMO, although Collins maybe has a chance.
     
  4. sharpshooter

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    Lol at all the guys saying Froch would work Eubank on the inside.. Froch has no inside game whatsoever he just flails wildly, ties up & uses his free hand to punch. Look at what Ward did to him on the inside with a broken hand! Froch does well at mid to long range, Benn would close the distance & push him backwards, Eubank would outbox him & land that overhand right all night long, the only fight I'm not sure about is Collins.
     
  5. CupidStunt

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    Eubank would have absolutely schooled Froch, way too skilled
     
  6. CupidStunt

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    Ridiculous. Was McClellan too big for Benn?
     
  7. HerolGee

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    Collins might take him to a SD with his incessant pressure. Collins was a fearless little devil, great at coming forward. It would be like watching two trucks ramming into each other for 45 minutes. Given that theres a possibility of a stoppage, somethings got to give despite the granite chins on display.

    benn on his night would possibly stop froch, but would lose a rematch on points.

    eubank....well eubank was arguably the best of the three in his prime, I think eubank would find a way to edge out carl, tbh, by split decision going life and death. Eubank would lose the rematch under similar circumstances.


    Come on, we talking top level performers here, so the outcome is always going to be on a razors edge.
     
  8. Dorfmeister

    Dorfmeister Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Collins who beat Eubank twice and even a faded Benn twice would outpunch Froch, actually the Collins under the Petronellis in Boston who fought gamely Mike McCallum for the WBA Strap those many years ago would be too much for Froch.

    Eubank would do the same to Froch that he did to so many hyped up undefeated guys like Graziano Rochigianni, a widents decision win.

    Nigel Benn would go tit for tat and guess what, when the going would go tough, it wouldn't be Froch who would get going.
     
  9. Clinton

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    Collins is better at the best thing Froch is at , which is toughness. Plus, he is much more skilled and far, far mentally tougher than Carl is as proved by Groves getting under his skin. Collins by commanding decision. Eubank has a shot and is better skilled than Carl, so Chris wins that one. Benn and McClellan are overrated, and I see Froch beating both of them.
     
  10. tennis

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    Collins is a much better version of froch

    And he was B level at best

    Benn and eubank are much better

    Eubank had the talent to be A level

    And we won't even discuss the big 3

    Jones toney and bhop
     
  11. lepinthehood

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    i think the yanks are better for sure. for the british fighters:
    1. calzaghe
    2. eubanks
    3.froch
    4. benn
    5. collins
    6. watson ( although he could off been the best or 2nd best)

    h2h
    1. calzaghe
    2. eubanks
    3. watson
    3. froch
    4. collins
    5. benn
     
  12. loughlan

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    Sorry but everyone of them beats Froch. Eubank was too skilled, Benn's movement would give him all kinds of problems and Collins would beat him at his own toughguy game and then some.

    As usual Froch get's highly overrated by people who think the current era is the best, not realising that even the tier 2 guys of the 90s would give him a good run for his money.
     
  13. lepinthehood

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    no, we watch what we see and make an opinion based on that. no one even gives this era a chance to beat any other era. collins is oh so tough, tougher than froch, why? neither of them have been stopped, collins has been down enough times. collins has more stamina maybe more speed and variety, hes not tougher and he hasnt got a better punch. benn probably punches hardest of them all in the 90s supermiddleweight division but he isnt the toughest, and he isnt the strongest. theres holes in all there games, eubanks on the front foot wasnt exactly good level, have you ever seen him throw that overhand right from his ass? not a pretty sight and nothing technical about it. watson was probably the best boxer and the strongest, but he wasnt the toughest. they all beat each other because they exploited weaknesses in each others games. froch's strengths are just not raved about as much, oh hes just a clumsy ******* with a solid beard. he also has a proper good jab, reach height, a sneaky right hand coming from below, a good awareness of distance and a good idea of when to attack, his barrages keep people pinned to the ropes. you ever saw benn trying that ducking diving shite at the ropes, jesus he evaded a few but he took enough and froch would stop him at that point. watch eubanks finish of benn, eubanks missed so many shots when he had benn backed up, eubanks offense was b-c level. awful at times and predictable.
     
  14. TinFoilHat

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    :deal
     
  15. deltrotter

    deltrotter Well-Known Member Full Member

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    McClellan Moved up to SMW to fight Benn, so no way was he to big for Benn. McClellan had crazy power though