Full Heavyweight ATG list

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  1. catchwtboxing

    catchwtboxing Loyal Member

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    Some good points, here.
     
  2. Spreadeagle

    Spreadeagle Active Member Full Member

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    1) Muhammad Ali
    2) Lennox Lewis
    3) Larry Holmes
    4) Joe Louis
    5) Sonny Liston
    6) Vitali KLitschko
    7) George Foreman
    8) Joe Frazier
    9) Mike Tyson
    10) Riddick Bowe
    Those just missing the cut-Wladimir Klitschko,Jack Dempsey,Ezzard Charles and Jersey Joe Walcott.
    I've omitted Oleksandr Usyk for now,as he has not yet retired.I've got a feeling he will be recognised as
    a consensus top 10 ATG heavyweight-champion after he retires and his career is fully evaluated.
     
  3. Levook

    Levook Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Muhammad Ali
    Joe Louis
    Larry Holmes/Rocky Marciano TIE 3RD
    George Foreman
    Evander Holyfield
    Joe Frazier
    Jack Dempsey
    Sonny Liston
    Ezzard Charles
    Jersey Joe Walcott
     
  4. OldSchoolBoxing

    OldSchoolBoxing Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I checked boxrec, 2 judges scored it 83 - 88, 1 judge 82 - 89, all in favor of Vitaly. 23 fans scored it 88 - 83, again all in favor of Vitaly.

    I think you're biased.
     
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  5. elgoadie

    elgoadie Active Member Full Member

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    Haha, to be fair on another day I might've posted that exact ranking as well! Perhaps it all depends on what I've had for breakfast!
     
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  6. LoveThis

    LoveThis Sweet Science Full Member

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    Huh - @catchwtboxing is the only one who provided more than ten names.

    So you other guys' full ATG list is no longer than 10 names?
     
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  7. Yorbals

    Yorbals Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Ali
    Louis
    Foreman
    Holmes
    Lewis
    Frazier
    Tyson
    Holyfield
    Liston
    Dempsey
     
  8. Joceho

    Joceho New Member Full Member

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    1-Ali
    2-Lewis
    3-Holmes
    4-Foreman
    5-Holyfield
    6-Usyk
    7-Louis
    8-Tyson
    9-Liston
    10- Frazier

    Tough to argue w Ali at the top. He certainly doesn’t beat everyone on the list but the most versatile fighter that could beat more styles than anyone else. Had an IRON chin and will.

    Holmes was def great no question w 20 defenses but also vulnerable to right hands. Weak era imo and still had mighty struggles with older version of Norton, Spoon, Snipes, Shavers. Perhaps hosed in 2nd fight w Spinks but arguably gifted Williams fight.

    Tyson down the list because his candle burned out rather early. Pre Douglas he was one formidable opponent. H2H I feel that version beats any version of Holmes and gives most Atgs a run for their money, sans Foreman and maybe Liston. Lewis fought highly diminished version.

    Lewis gets knocked here for getting stopped by hugely underrated McCall and then Rach. He avenged both decisively. Dominated pretty tough solid list. Foreman claims him to be the best ever and there is a solid argument for it.

    I’m hugely impressed by Usyk’s run. Has to be the most consistent hvy of all time and I was inclined to put him even higher. I think he loses to prime Tyson but I’d be pressed to think that Foreman would beat him. Certainly old version does not. Young version has to get him early. I think Lewis with his length and vicious uppercut likely stops Usyk. Holy/Usyk is a toss up. Frazier could def pose issues as well.

    The next list would likely include, Vitili, Wlad, Fury, Johnson, Langford. Sorry Marciano, Dempsey fans. Dempsey fought zero black fighters. The Rock was the best of HIS day but at 5’10, 185 lbs and 68 in reach, I don’t put him in the top 15.
     
  9. Bigplatts

    Bigplatts Active Member Full Member

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    So because I score a fight differently I must be biased? I didn’t have a horse in the race between Vitali and Byrd.