Fury is getting overrated.....

The mistake many people are making regarding Fury is they're basing everything on the Wlad fight. If you only think of any fighters best win/performance it will make them seem better than they are. Same as if you only think of a fighters worst performance you will end up under rating them. You need to use a larger sample size.

There's also the fact that fighters must actually prove themselves in the ring to deserve to be rated highly. Another thing is mentality is part of what makes a good, great or bad fighter. Even if you have the physical ability, if you don't have the mentality to dedicate yourself, work hard and prove yourself in the ring again and again, you're not a great fighter.

 

He's been inactive, obese and on drugs. His body could be in worse condition than the guy on heart medicine.

 

I liked Fury, think he has some serious skills but until i see him back in the ring with top guys doing well i will assume that he has already lost a step from the toll that getting very out of shape brings.

No offence, i hope he proves me wrong it would be great the division!

 

haha thanks man

I think people on this board just look at this one result. I say result, because if they analysed the performance of this fight and his whole career it would paint an ugly picture. He beat Wlad, so he gets credit for that, but if people actually look at his performance in that fight, it was garbage... only mildly less garbage than Wlads.

Just for anyone who forgot how bad this fight sucked, here's a little reminder of the compubox numbers... even reading the stats I started to nod off!

Total Punches Klitschko Fury
Landed 52 86
Thrown 231 371
Pct. 23% 23%
Jabs Klitschko Fury
Landed 34 38
Thrown 162 169
Pct. 21% 22%
Power Punches Klitschko Fury
Landed 18 48
Thrown 69 202
Pct. 26% 24%

Anyone thinking that's a schooling or showing ultimate slickness needs their head reading. Compare the numbers for Wlad to ANY other of his fights and you'll struggle to see a worse prepared version of him. This really was a fluke one off, stars all aligning moment which Fury did well to capitalise on, but then the revisionist history goes into overdrive as people start harping on about his slickness, awesome footwork etc etc. Watch it again, he was feinting and fumbling around the ring like a drunk high schooler and his punches lacked any technique to the point you can literally count on one hand the amount of cleanly thrown and landed shots. When Klitschko did finally wake up in the 12th, that's how the guy would normally have fought and how he fought against Joshua. For me, Klitschko was basically in round 13 from the Fury fight and came with bad intentions.

 

Fury won 11 rounds, it was a real schooling...

 

Again, you're one of the people I'm referring to who completely misses the point. The result may have looked like a schooling, but the performance certainly wasn't. It's like comparing rotten fruit. Both rotten, just one more so, but both will give you indigestion.

I'd only used the word schooled when someone puts on a master performance, but lets be real, neither guy did anything close. It was a stink fest.

 

This in a nutshell, I think had Fury not went on a hedgehog eating, coke infused,
obesity fest, he'd beat everyone at HW. There is nothing to suggest............yet..........
that physically prime Fury even exists anymore. Until he fights and shows
he does, that Fury is now a memory.

 

Nah , it was the performance that was the schooling , the result is just numbers on a piece of paper.

Fury went over to Walds house and made him look like an out of town jasper. He controlled almost every round against a guy who had the equalizer to turn the tide in a blink of an eye.

Fury out maneuvered him , out boxed and and most importantly out thought him. He knew what Wlad was going to do before Wlad even did it.

Sure , the fight may have been a stinker looking back , but it was an edge of seat type affair watching live , at least for me it was.
And really it was only one man to blame for the sink and it wasn't Fury. Well , two men actually , as Weeks enabled Wlad to maul , grope and reach out and hold every min of every round. If Weeks had forced Wlad to box in close , instead of hold , you would have saw a different fight.
But Wlad knew he needed to grab on like a vicegrips to save himself from the beating Fury would have gave him inside the wheelhouse.
Go back and watch how Wlad would close in on Fury and once he got within range , he'd reach out and grab instead of engaging in any type of combat.
You can't can't look good against a guy who doesn't / can't box. Fury stripped Wlad of his entire offence and left him with nothing but defensive posturings for 11.5 rounds.

Fury educated him , it was like tutor vs pupil.

 

You tell me this man is overrated after he comes back after 3 years from 350 pounds and beats the "monster" AJ...and not just beat him SCHOOL HIM. Ali Foreman style.

Fury will secure himself as probably one of the best heavyweights of all time over the next 2 years. Wilder does not stand a chance...even a punchers chance he doesn't have. AJ stands a punchers chance.

Fury's performance against wlad wasn't even his best. AJ bieng a willing warrior will make Fury AJ fury's best performance. true fighting men.

 

fury is ATG

 

Also, I think that Fury's power is underrated. Wlad didn't want to gamble at first because he was surprised by the heavy handed Fury. Just look at Chisora's facial expression before he quit in the second bout. You don't need 1 punch KO power to be effective in the ring. That's the biggest difference between the Fury's.

 

Don't want to hear it

Undefeated Unified champion, only boxer to beat Wladimir in his own game. Outboxed him as gentley as possible, so it wasn't another home-run Wladimir KO loss, where the outboxed opponent tagged the homerun button implanted under Wladimir chin

If he comes out of retirement, he is immediately the Lineal champion, whoever is holding the belts needs to defend his claim vs King Tyson Fury

 

"Power punches". That's a laugh. I don't remember any.

 

As incredible of a win that it was at that time, Fury has done absolutely zero since but talk.

And he did everything possible to avoid the rematch against an angry Klitschko which suggested to me that he was ducking.

Until Fury returns to the ring with a W he will remain irrelevant.

I need to see a roadmap similar to below for Fury to take him serious again:

Bum > Charr > Whyte/Parker > Joshua/Wilder