Fury-Ngannou

Spot on. Fury is a joke now and embarrassed the whole sport.

 

I've seen the punch stats and Fury was throwing 20 punches a round, wtf is that about?

Now Ngannou was only throwing about the same, but you can't say much about that as at least he's got the excuse of not being an actual boxer.

 

"Are you seriously comparing Ngannou to arguably the greatest amateur boxer of all time?"

I'm making the point that not all "debutants" are equal. Ngannou has some elite attributes and he started boxing 14-15 years ago. He was also easy to underestimate and there was no relevant footage of him to study, yet Fury won.

"there’s no defending it."

Many have tried to defend Joshua's quitjob beatdown LOSS to Ruiz, a far more embarrassing performance.

 

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Poor numbers.

 

Card of the year so far at a time to suit the UK viewers.

Plenty of stoppages and nearly the biggest upset ever in a boxing ring.

Those 6 million viewers in the UK got value for money watching that card.

 

It was full of mismatches apart from the main event.

 

You can’t help the fanboys, they never learn.

 

Doesn’t matter, there’s 0 excuses for the supposed best heavyweight boxer of this era to be getting dropped by a 0-0 novice. You can complain all you want about that but that’s an undeniable fact, Ngannou is a novice to boxing having 0 professional fights (which is very very different to sparring).

Who? Joshua’s loss was embarrassing, that’s a widely accepted fact. However what’s even more embarrassing are the fanboys like yourself who are somehow trying to defend Fury being exposed by an MMA fighter in a boxing ring. It was one of the most embarrassing performance the sport has ever seen, simple as.

 

Fury v Wilder 3 also the best World Heavyweight Title Fight by a country mile in this era although recognising Ruiz v Joshua 1 was comedy gold.

 

"getting dropped by"

the 272 lbs ripped most dangerous puncher in MMA history, who has held the world record on a “PowerKube” punching machine since 2018 and has been boxing for 14-15 years.

"Who?"

All of the people who were making excuses for Joshua's quitjob, saying it was a "lucky punch" or an "off night" or whatever.

"It was one of the most embarrassing performance"

1. Fury once again got off the floor to win, something other prominent champions have never done

2. Coming back from adversity (including huge embarrassment) to succeed is the mark of a great champion

 

Key words: ‘MMA fighter’

And you believe he hits harder than Deontay Wilder - the hardest single puncher arguably ever - no chance. He is also nowhere near as fast or as good as setting it up.

Joshua got embarrassed but won the belts back (in an equally embarrassing fight). Again Ruiz was a seasoned professional with hundreds of professional and amateur fights, a guy who was a solid top 10 contender who lost a close and controversial world title fight to Parker.

I love how you just fail to mention Fury was dropped by a novice and was being outboxed for portions of that fight. He embarrassed himself and the sport that night. The Chisora trilogy and the Ngannou disaster - a shocking year for Fury.

 

"Key word: ‘MMA fighter’"

"MMA fighter" is (at least) two words but it's just a concept. It doesn't mean that Ngannou isn't dangerous in a boxing ring. Like the "cruiserweight" concept, which convinced many that Holyfield/Usyk couldn't beat top heavyweights. Or Vitali, Briedis and Povetkin being "kickboxers". Or Corrie Sanders being a "golfer".

Ring's 2022 trainer of the year Bob Santos doesn't believe that being an MMA fighter will prevent Ngannou from having major success in boxing, and neither did former Ngannou sparring partner Joe Joyce.

"And you believe he hits harder than Deontay Wilder"

Ngannou may punch with more force than Wilder given that he's naturally 50 lbs heavier. But Wilder is "extremely fast" according to Wlad and has more boxing experience. The man who knows best is Fury, who said immediately after the fight that Ngannou was a "big puncher".

"Ruiz was a seasoned professional"

Ruiz was a 25/1 underdog of thereabouts, Ngannou was a 7/1 underdog. Ngannou was regarded as a far more formidable and dangerous heavyweight boxer than Andy Ruiz, probably for good reason!

"a shocking year for Fury"

Depends what Ngannou goes on to do and if the Ngannou fiasco motivates Fury vis a vis Usyk.

 

Ruiz was a highly ranked professional boxer who arguably should have already been world champion. It was only embarrassing cos of the way Ruiz looked really. So it was easy to ridicule AJ.

Furys was much more embarrassing tbh and I say that as someone who greatly admired his comeback.

 

How is any of that relevant? Cruiserweights are legit boxers, Ngannou isn’t. He may be dangerous, but he shouldn’t be for the supposed best. Of course he’s a big puncher, so are a lot of other heavies doesn’t mean they are any good.

Ngannou is a bigger puncher than Ruiz, doesn’t mean he’s a better boxer. Ruiz has way better boxing skills, ring IQ, and experience. He was criminally underrated before the AJ fight (he’s not a great boxer but he wasn’t the ‘bum’ that many claimed).

Ducking the undisputed, fighting the most pointless trilogy in history, got dropped and arguably lost to an 0-0 novice. Sounds pretty embarrassing to me (certainly for Fury’s standards).