Gamboa Vs Linares

Yup, I have nothing to hide... I only subscribed to this particular forum because I saw too much hate towards Gamboa and even if Gamboa is with Pacman my two favorite boxers right now, I hate haters before anything. I did the same years ago in another forum when Mayweather was up and coming and a lot of people were trashtalking about him. People don't just criticize, they clearly hate. You have that new thread comparing Mayweather's public appeal to Gamboa's for PPV issues, and then you have dumb people saying how can you compare glass chinned Gamboa to Mayweater and shiet. People are clearly hating, they don't like Gamboa since beggining and hate to see him do well, they wan't him to get KTFO and they are happy to justify their hate with "critisism", backing it up with him been down twice. The fact is, if Gamboa never received these two punches that put him down (it could easily have happened) people wouldn't have these two arguments. But they'd still be going on with something else... i've said it before and i say it again, there is too many frustrated people out there and they will never stop hating, it's the way it is. I just like to argue with them

 

Gamboa has a hell of a lot of fans here. The reason why you get these seemingly anti-Gamboa threads is because some of those fans have over-hyped him like crazy way too early and predicted him to win every possible match-up out there confortably, pissing off the fans of every other more proven (and better) fighter out there. There is always a counter-reaction against these type of arrogant fans, who happen to be the same ones who have hyped other fighters like mad, who were later beaten badly or proven to be lacking. Also, it is because Gamboa is arrogant inside and outside of the ring (we've had this conversation). They also dislike his promoter (Oener) who is a scumbag. If some of Gamboa's fans wouldn't go overboard as much as they do and wouldn't be so antagonistic and defensive when Gamboa is criticised as being less than perfect, if Gamboa was more respectful and less arrogant, and thus wouldn't get KDed by journeymen, every comment about Gamboa would be of pure love.

 

Decebal, the reasons you just said just prove my point when I say it's all about hate. People hate because he has a huge fanbase and their favorite boxer don't. People hate because Gamboa acts cocky inside the ring (it's a known proven fact that haters hate confident people). People hate because he is still winning all his fights with extreme ease as predicted. People hate because.... they like to hate.

And, you are mixing two concepts together because as arrogant as he can be, you know very well that Gamboa is very respectful. Did you see how he treated Ramirez in his last fight? He hugged him, he friendly touched his head after round one like saying "nice round buddy". Yes he is cocky, but he is extremely respectful at the same time, and as you said, we already covered this.

Another thing, if people hate him because of his promoter then people need to check themselves for mental problem issues. I myself can't stand the way Oner does his business. I like the way he push his fighters but that's about it. Just today, after everything Shaw did for Gamboa, Oner decided to put an end to their business relationship. Talk about a scumbag!!

Finally, I am the counter-reaction. I think it is more the inverse of what you said. People here hate badly. Fans are more moderate. People are practically saying Gamboa is a fraud, an Amir Khan, a nobody. As you said, 95% of my posts in this forum are about Gamboa. Go read them and tell me if I once put him on a God given status. I'm just being fair to him and givin the dude all the credit he deserves. You know that.

 

Nah, mate. Plenty of much more popular proven fighters/champions out there who are universally loved here. Plenty of popular prospects who are universally loved here too. This is how the Gamboa "hate" started:

When Gamboa was introduced to us, everyone loved him and couldn't get enough of him. Then, the Pacman v. JMM fight happened and a clique of arrogant posters here who thought they were better than the rest of us, who disliked Pacman, got very upset when he won. They disliked Pacman, whom they called "limited and one-dimensional", because he was considered a better fighter by the rest of us than Calzaghe, Guzman, Dawson, Cotto, whom they called "supernatural". This clique overrated fighters with great boxing skills and speed and underrated tough, effective fighters who didn't look so impressive. When Gamboa came along, they latched onto him, and after the Pacman v. JMM fight, after Gamboa made those comments about Pacman, they predicted Pacman would get KOed or beaten badly by the supernatural "God" Gamboa and patronised anyone who'd say otherwise or who thought other prospects might be better or that other poven fighters could beat Gamboa. So people started being critical of Gamboa's every fault or shortcoming. This is how it started. I'll pm you a link to the forum where the clique have gone to, if you want. It's Gamboa heaven, there. They all left to start their own forum after Margarito beat Cotto, whom they considered p4p No.1.

So, ironically, the only reason Gamboa gets so much criticism and negative attention here on ESB is because of these posters who called Gamboa "God".

 

Gam's camp have been saying he's ready for a world title since his last 2 or 3 fights which is laughable. He's a good prospect but he's in need of more experience with a gradual move up....not throwing him to the wolves b/c he has an explosive style. Linares would KO Gam at this stage in both mens careers! But for 6 yrs Linares should have more solid opponents....yet still he has the better experience and at this point the better "Pro" technique which would almost guarntee a victory if the two met. Doesn't any recall Gam's camp calling out PAC and Valero!:rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl It's like they wanted Gam's career to end abrublty.

 

You know, that changes everything. Most intelligent post I've read so far and yeah it is logical. You have to understand that from an outsider (from this forum) point of view coming here and watching all the bashing on Gamboa with no reason seemed like a forum full of haters. Didn't know there was a war between Gamboa worshippers and the rest of the forum months ago lol Now you all are kind of happy because Gamboa got dropped twice and has clear flaws that goes against that "God status" so you all enjoying the moment. Historically justified but still not fair for the man. :bbb

And changing the subject, lol @ Cotto being P4P #1. Don't get me wrong, Cotto is a very good boxer and I think he is overall a lot better than Margarito and I do think he could beat Margarito in a rematch with another game plan (not trying to KO Margarito, that goes against nature). However, I never understood people who put Cotto up there in the top P4P list with Mayweather and Pacman. Really, he never impressed me THAT much to get a P4P status. He has a lot of talent but falls short imo.

Charlie, I do think Gamboa is ready for the title. Not saying he will win, but he is able to and has a lot of chances considering the actual champs of 126. But I understand what you mean, I've run into these people who thought Gamboa could beat Valero after 2 pro fights.

 

:rofl Go grab a skirt and some pom poms you cheerleader! I like Gam and all but please give his testicals back after you are finished washing them down in your mouth.:-(

 

Yeah, basically it's mostly silly ESB internal politics!atsch :nut Gamboa was just a pawn in the whole cold war thing we had going here. Unfortunately, he is still a target, but with those posters gone to the other forum and only looking in now and then, we should get over this crazy state of mind and get back to normal, if good posters don't keep on putting straw over the fire that almost burned itself out by overrating Gamboa unnecessarily. :good

ESB went through a very rough patch; it was crazy for a few months early this year, but now, we seem to be getting back to being sensible, objective fans and analysts again. Fingers crossed.

 

I really don't see Gamboa getting much hate. I for one couldn't really care what other people said about Gamboa. I am still a big fan of his and think he will go a long way. A couple of knockdowns doesn't change that. However i think he should pace his career. Being in the spotlight from the beggining is something that could hurt him if he is not promoted smartly. And lets be honest his promoter looks like a ****ing ******.

 

He isn't. It's just some hard-core fans overreacting to some of his less hard-core, more critical fans overreacting to some of his nuthuggers.

 

The fun thing with forums and internet for big mouths like you is that you can get away by saying such things, without getting your bones broken...

 

The reason Gamboa fighting better quality opponents is that he won Olympic Gold and is also with a better promoter.

 

Man stop trying to act tough. My comments were based on how you carry yourself....whether you are on the net or we met in real life I can comfortably say you don't cause me any worry in the streets or over a forum you clown.

 

you keep saying linares has been a pro for 6 years, but he has been inactive for the last year. So it would be more accurate that he faced the competition he has faced in the first 5 years of his pro career, not 6

actually, Linares' last fight was on december 15th 2007, and his first fight was on december 15th 2002.

look at who Duran fought in his first years as a pro