GBP's Richard Schaefer is a hypocrite

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by puga_ni_nana, Dec 24, 2009.


  1. the_truth

    the_truth Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I see what are you saying, but we have to stop being fans and seeing both point of views. They simply want a blood test that is more accurate. It's not only because of Sr. allegations. But what other man in the history has come up in weight and whop and taking punches from the bigger men like Manny has. That at least gives a reason, is it right, probably not. But where talking about the biggest fight in history and everything should be done so no one has an advantage over another.
     
  2. bladerunner

    bladerunner El Intocable Full Member

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    Henry Armstrong
    Tony Canzoneri
    Harry Greb
    Mickey Walker
    Jimmy Mclarnin
    Sam Langford
    And many others.
     
  3. Bee KeepZ

    Bee KeepZ Roid City Full Member

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    How so? It shows they are trying to single ONE fighter out and are using the "for the sake of fair play" **** as a ploy. NSAC is good enough for Mosley but not for Pacquiao?

    If this doesn't do it for you I don't know what does. He says, he has no problems with the drug tests just not the days prior to the fight. 1:29

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ylvHGjEgX-M&feature=player_embedded#at=96

    Victor Conte weighs in on the subject:

    "In my opinion, blood testing for the Pacquiao-Mayweather fight is more important for detecting possible blood doping or use of EPO than it is for human growth hormone. Measuring hematocrit levels (percentage of red blood cells to total whole blood volume) is very important. For example, even without a positive urine test for EPO, cyclists are temporarily suspended for two weeks if their hematocrit is greater than 50%. An elevated hematocrit can provide a significant advantage to a fighter by enhancing oxygen uptake and utilization. This would benefit a fighter in training and especially during the later rounds of a fight."
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    "One, I think that increasing hematocrit levels, whether it’s by traditional blood-doping or the use of EPO, is of greater benefit to a boxer than the use of growth-hormone," he explained."So growth-hormone is more of an anti-catobolic agent that may help to accelerate the healing of the tissue repair process. But growth-hormone is not anabolic as an anabolic steroid. It’s an anti-catabolic agent and I believe that you don’t get a very big bang for your buck. I’m not a huge fan of growth-hormone. I don’t think it’s tremendously beneficial performance enhancing substance.

    "EPO, though, in terms of boxing, is absolutely huge, both in training and as well as in a fight, especially during the later rounds."

    This is coming from a man that's beat USADA and it's at Max.

    Floyd is being shown for what he is.

    If Pacquiao's team aren't comfortable with tests being done the week of the fight they shouldn't sign on.

     
  4. the_truth

    the_truth Boxing Addict Full Member

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    You just want to hear what you would like to hear. My point and say this still doesn't give Manny the point of refusing this type of blood test just because of GBP past. Arum has been a hypocrite at times. Let him simply be the bigger man and take the test. Is that simple. And please Manny is lying, he took blood test on the Hatton fight and look at his performace, the doctors all said it doesn't affect anything and is no more than a teaspoon. Come on.
     
  5. Bee KeepZ

    Bee KeepZ Roid City Full Member

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    How's he lying he's not refusing anything, he says no problem to the tests.

    It's not that simple would you sign a fight that you feel your going to be disadvantaged? What's a week of no blood tests? Why can't they guarantee a week of no blood tests? If this thing is about fair play, why did Mayweather's camp change the contract the night of the weigh in for Marquez?

    Roach is looking out for him.
     
  6. the_truth

    the_truth Boxing Addict Full Member

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    With exception of Henry, but give me a break. I know they didn't have many weight divisions in those times. But none of those fighters have gone to all the divisions and destroy and dismantle opponents the way Manny is doing to the best in their divisions and still carrying their power and the ability to take punches.
     
  7. puga_ni_nana

    puga_ni_nana Dempsey Roll Full Member

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    in a way GBP represents mayweather as much as arum and roach represents pac. GBP for the past few days are on a binge of media spree trying to paint pac as a cheat. it's only my opinion that pac should tell floyd and GBP to **** off with their demands because of this unfair treatment by GBP and the hypocrisy it shown. so far, almost all posters here have already seen what GBP and floyd wants to do (poll result). if you contest that pac still has to undergo this USADA type of test as demanded by floyd, you can make a new poll or thread.
     
  8. the_truth

    the_truth Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Mayweather would be going through the same thing... That's what you guys don't see. Both fighters not just Manny. So how is that a disadvantage.
     
  9. the_truth

    the_truth Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Trust me I've always been the first to criticize Mayweather and give Manny his dues. The difference I know when to stop being a fan and see both views. Mayweather would never win a poll esp. against Manny who is like a Bruce Lee mix with Brad Pitt popularity. Hes a nice guy. So polls are very misleading at times.
     
  10. bladerunner

    bladerunner El Intocable Full Member

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    Thats cause you dont know what the **** you're talking about,Langford went from lightweight to heavyweight and was able to stop heavyweights.
    Greb used to beat guys from middle to heavy,Walker from welter to heavy and they werent beating bums they were beating hall of famers.

    And not having as many divisions back then only made it harder than it is today,get of fraud's **** and go learn something about the sport.
     
  11. puga_ni_nana

    puga_ni_nana Dempsey Roll Full Member

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    duran has shown up to go from 122 to 147 to 160 to beat sugar and barkley. pac submitting to the preferred test by floyd would result in a not level playing field for pac. they will be tested many times and would probably be in days leading to the fight. it might not affect floyd mentally or physically but pac is admitted to be affected by it. to be fair, every concern must be addressed and not just what floyd or GBP wants.
     
  12. rushman

    rushman Devoid is Devoid Full Member

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    So you are saying that everyone reacts to everything in exactly the same way? Both physically and psychologically?

    So Floyd is getting the same blood taken at the same time. So it must have the same effect both physically and psychologically. Cause it is the exact same thing happening to both guys?

    For example, if Pacman insisted that the cornermen for both fighters wore Ku Klux Klan outfits? I mean, how can that disadvantage Floyd if Pac is going through exactly the same thing?

    The whole "Same input with different people must have the same effect" argument fails, no matter how many times *****s try it on.

    And you are not fooling anyone. You are ***** through and through. No one else would put forward such bull**** arguments otherwise.
     
  13. AFBlues

    AFBlues Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Damn shame that GBP has double standards on blood testing when it comes to their own fighters!:lol: They can spin this all they want but they can't fool majority of the people out there!
     
  14. rushman

    rushman Devoid is Devoid Full Member

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    Don't keep replying to him. I reckon we just got a troll on our hands. He's getting off on being an irrational ****stick.

    Time to put that useless turd on my ignore list.
     
  15. the_truth

    the_truth Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Name me the fighters they beat without looking at boxrec :DYou are probably a Bert Sugar dick rider and that makes you a true boxing fan now. Come on man, never been a Mayweather fan, but I know how to stop being a fan at times and discuss it with both points of views:good