George Foreman Had Zero Defense

So if you want to use your logic Tyson Fury doesn't have any defense since Deontay "Windmill" Wilder was able to land punches against him. Foreman had good defense in reality. That is why he was rarely hit in his prime. His offense was his defense . But Foreman has no defense because Ali was able to land punches against him? You do realize in boxing you are bound to be hit right? Also the more you come forward the more you are going to get hit. The more you load up on power shots the more you are going to get hit. Do you even watch boxing? I bet your boxing knowledge comes from listening to other people talk about it.

 

You mean how younger people act like every current boxer is so skilled?

 

Lol exactly. Foreman had no skill or defense because Ali a guy with fast hands landed punches on him. These people have no clue to what they are talking about.

 

That is why slow unskilled Deontay Wilder was able to knock him down 3 times right? That is why Otto Wallin was able to land numerous flush punches to Fury's head and even hurt him badly in the 12th round I believe. That is why Steve Cunnigham was able to land numerous flush punches to Fury's head and even knock him down. Foreman had 47 bouts in his prime. Only Ali, Jimmy Young and Ron Lyle landed various clean punches to his head. Yeah I will just dismiss you. You clearly don't really watch boxing. Either that, or you are trolling for attention or if you watch boxing you just to slow to understand what you are watching.

Foreman was rarely hit in his prime, he won most of his fights early and the fights that went a while he was still rarely hit. It's very simple

 

Foreman also beat Chuck Wepner ( If you want to bash Wepner then bash Ali for fighting Wepner in a title fight) Boone Kirkman, even a guy like Jack O"halloran was ranked in the top 10 at this points any time in his career. Also George Foreman continue to fight and beat people like Michael Moorer, Lou Savarese, Gerry Cooney, Dwight Qawi, Bert Cooper, Alex Stewart, Shannon Briggs (Foreman got robbed) Axel Schulz, Pierre Coezter ect. Foreman's career resume was far better than Joe Frazier's. Also Ali's opinions about who is great and who isn't really doesn't mean anything. Because Ali himself wasn't the greatest. There is no one greatest fighter in any weight class.

Also could you imagine George Foreman being knocked down by Bonavena? Also most people think Ali was rusty when Frazier beat him. Second you do realize Foreman didn't take Ali seriously, fought stupid and lost. It is like saying because Buster Douglas beat Tyson so Douglas is the better fighter. Or because Corrie Sanders beat Wladimir Klitschko so Sanders is the better fighter. Hell Ali himself struggled against 180 pound Doug Jones. Do you think Foreman would of struggled with Doug Jones?

It is funny how people like you just pick things to fit your narrative.

 

But I bet you think Rocky Marciano beating a shop worn Joe Louis, Archie Moore, Jersey Joe Walcott, and Ezzard Charles was a great feat right? Also Joe Louis, Walcott, and Moore were also chinney.

Ken Norton was only knocked out by guys who were known for being massive punchers. A shop worn Ken Norton took everything a prime Holmes could dish out. Ken Norton took everything Ali could dish out. Also if you think Frazier was beat up and shop worn because of one fight against Ali then maybe you should quit watching boxing. Frazier was 29 and had one tough fight against Ali. Frazier was still in great shape and in the prime of his life. Even Foreman beating guys like Boone Kirkman was impressive. Kirkman was a top 10 guy that Foreman beat so bad he didn't fight in 3 years and was never the same afterward. Foreman beating Chuck Wepner when Foreman only had 3 fights was impressive. Chuck Wepner wasn't skilled but he was 6'5 225/230 pound guy who was durable. Foreman beating the extremely skilled Gregoria Peralta twice was something to be impressed by. Foreman beating Lyle, Foreman beating guys like Jack O"Halloran who was a huge 6'6 240 pound guy who was in the top 10 at different parts of his career was impressive. Foreman stopping George Chuvalo was impressive. Hell even Foreman beating John Dino Dennis was impressive. Dino lost to 5 people in his Career, the 42-1 (39) KO's Foreman, The 6'5 250 pound undefeated Leroy Jones, The 6'5 230 pound undefeated Gerry Cooney, Donnie Long (The only lower tiered fighter on the list) and Joe Bugner. Foreman won the title, Cooney, Bugner, and Jones fought for the title.

 

First you said: "Also most people think Ali was rusty when Frazier beat him. Second you do realize Foreman didn't take Ali seriously, fought stupid and lost."

Then you said: "It is funny how people like you just pick things to fit your narrative."

 

Foreman would poleaxe old Wlad (and Wilder) a lot quicker, so you are correct.

 

Lol Steve Cunnigham only fought Fury 1 time and still landed numerous flush punches to Fury's chin and knocked him down once. Otto Wallin wasn't in ranked in the top 50 when he faced Fury and still landed numerous flush punches to Fury's chin. Nevin Pajkic was able to knock down Fury with 1 punch. John McDermott landed numerous flush punches to Fury's chin, hurt him and most people think John won their first fight. So if Foreman didn't get his much then how is his defense bad? Lol how would you know it is bad if he knocked most of his opponents out early?

Um a prime George Foreman would of knocked out a 40 year old Wladimir Klitschko. So yeah Foreman wouldn't have ran for 12 rounds and only landed 86 punches. Yeah I am ignoring you. You clearly don't know a thing about boxing. Go away.

 

Um Foreman didn't take Ali serious. This is a fact. Foreman destroyed Ken Norton, George Chuvalo and Joe Frazier. Three fighters Ali either struggled with or lost too. Most people do think Ali was rusty against Frazier. This isn't a personal opinion. You will frequently see people use that reason for why Ali lost.

You are the one who picks and choose stuff to fit your narrative. You will say Frazier beat Ali and Foreman couldn't do it so that clearly means Frazier is better. Ignoring the fact that Foreman beat Frazier twice. You will say Foreman never beat any top level fighters and then I will list 20 guys who were ranked in the top 10 when Foreman beat them. You know what you will say "Well being in the top 10 doesn't mean anything". Then you will bring up the top 10 when it benefits your point.

 

I guess you’re still waiting for your strawman.

Yeah if an opponent could navigate or withstand Foreman’s offense, he could hit him. You could probably get in some clean shots on a wrecking ball too, but you better make sure it doesn’t connect when it swings by you or they’ll be scraping you off the floor.

Easier said than done.