George Foreman vs Holmes opposition

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  1. InMemoryofJakeLamotta

    InMemoryofJakeLamotta I have defeated the great Seamus Full Member

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    Instead of Holmes beating Norton and becoming champ, Foreman beats Norton and becomes champ and then takes on the following (versions Holmes fought):
    Alfredo Evangelista
    Ossie Ocasio
    Mike Weaver
    Earnie Shavers
    Lorenzo Zanon
    Leroy Jones
    Scott Ledoux
    Muhammad Ali
    Trevor Berbick
    Leon Spinks
    Renaldo Snipes
    Gerry Cooney
    Randall Cobb
    Lucien Rodriguez
    Tim Witherspoon
    Scott Frank
    Marvis Frazier
    James Smith
    David Bey
    Carl Williams
    Michael Spinks

    Would George Foreman go undefeated? Or would he drop one? And to whom? And I know he fought some on this list, but I'm putting them in the order that Holmes fought them.
     
  2. guncho

    guncho next champion! Full Member

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    Williams could pull an upset aginst overconfident foreman.
     
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    Wasn't there a similar thread a few weeks back? I think Witherspoon, Williams, Spinks beat him. Foreman wasn't really known for his longevity. I see him slowing down after Ali fight and he'll be more beatable by the time he reaches Witherspoon. If it was just head to head, I'd still give Witherspoon, Williams, Spinks a shot but Foreman would be the favourite. Doing this in order, longevity plays a major role and Foreman couldn't match Holmes in that department. Holmes fought and beat ranked contenders for a decade. Foreman never did that.
     
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    If they were individual fights he could beat most of them, but Foreman was not as consistent as Holmes or as versatile. Getting up for the fights and remaining consistent and modifying his style would be a problem for George. So he would have lost a few times in that list probably to maybe Shavers, Cooney, Bonecrusher, Witherspoon.. Holmes didn't have the power to anniliate guys but he could adjust better than George which is how champions have a lot of defenses. How many defenses did George have? A guy with 5 or 6 defenses in his career is pretty good. Cooney in 1982? I think that could give George a fight but George would probably win in 5 rounds. Witherspoon? When Holmes fought him? He could trouble George and maybe edge the fight. I loved his looping right hand. I just think George would be get bored and lose concentration. Bonecrusher vs. George? interesting fight. Weaver? George would knock out. Shavers vs. George? I think George destroys Earnie. That is the a fight George looks good in. I think Larry was more consistent than George and a greater fighter. Even Berbick was a decent fighter.
     
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  6. El Hans

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    All of Larry's opposition would be completely overwhelmed against a young Foreman who was contstantly in an inpatient seek and destroy mentality. Had he kept his head against Ali not been dehydrated and simply pulled a Joe Fraizer and muscled Ali off the ropes we would have a fighter who not only never lost his confidence but never would, Had Ali gave him the rematch he'd have lost the rumble took so much out of the great man and we'd have the old George and not a single person till Holmes would have remotely troubled him Young and Lyle had a chance because George was out of shape or was terrified of throwing too many punches because of his gas tank imagine Foremans record had he stayed in shape into his forties under Archie.
     
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