Get ready for Sept 13th Dueling Cards

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  1. Xelloss

    Xelloss Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Because I think the news that the networks and promoters going head to head would create news all on its own. Also, I dont really care about Floyds numbers one way or another. I dont care to see them hurt, but i also dont care if they are.

    Sept 13 is a big day for Mexican fighters, not sure why up and coming Mexican stars should cede the date to Floyd just because some hardcore boxing fans feel that since Floyd is #1 p4p he should have dibs just because he is Floyd.

    Floyd taking another fight against a Khan/Ortiz/etc does nothing for the sport of boxing, it just milks the same crowd for another $75. Time for something new.
     
  2. El-blanco

    El-blanco Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I disagree that this is bad. This will force someone like Floyd or pac to fight someone better and more competitive than rios or Guerrero. It's about putting out the best product not gouging the public on non competitive fights. They keep getting away with it.
     
  3. alexthegreatmc

    alexthegreatmc Sound logic and reason. You're welcome! Full Member

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    Too risky. Top Rank would be taking a huge chance and it might not pay off. Chavez & Froch won't fight on Sept 13.
     
  4. vast

    vast Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Froch and Chavex would bury maywheater vs anyone except Pac, and Arum knows it.
     
  5. Xelloss

    Xelloss Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Nah, between UK sky Box Office and Mexican TV rights and gate/site fees it wouldnt really be a risk. Lots of people see to assume US PPV is only revenue stream, which is not the case.
     
  6. second to none

    second to none Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Twitter mean little, Pacquiao has 1.4m followers but it's not like Mayweather sells 4 times the ppv or 4 times the draw. Amir khan has the 3rd highest numbers of followers on twitter in boxing doesn't mean he's anything like the draw of Chavez, Canelo, even Froch now. Twitter followers just means you have a different demographic Floyd probably has a fanbase very much hip hop culture types who are going to be active on Twitter. The likes of Chavez jr and Canelo have different demographics they attract.
     
  7. alexthegreatmc

    alexthegreatmc Sound logic and reason. You're welcome! Full Member

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    It is risky. Mayweather's fights are usually the biggest events in boxing. Even IF they were to make more than he does, they'd still take a huge hit in numbers. They won't be earning the full potential. They'll find another date.
     
  8. El-blanco

    El-blanco Boxing Addict Full Member

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    By all reports Floyd's last numbers were not great. I really think if they put up Chavez against Floyd, showtime would reconsider moving the date. If all he got was 900k buys, having Chavez cut in even 300k would be disastrous.
     
  9. alexthegreatmc

    alexthegreatmc Sound logic and reason. You're welcome! Full Member

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    It would be good for either Showtime or HBO. Both would take a significant hit and someone would budge.
     
  10. El-blanco

    El-blanco Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I agree someone would budge. And I think it would be showtime. Too much money involved, they couldn't afford a major hit of 300k buys. Whereas, the top rank card could potentially make money or break even. And when you're a dick like arum, that might be good enough for him. He'd be satisfied embarrassing the competition.
     
  11. Kush

    Kush Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Looks like Floyd might be on his own now that Schaffer got canned
     
  12. rapscalion

    rapscalion Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Hopefully they would both be in Vegas too
     
  13. MetalLicker

    MetalLicker I Am Full Member

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    A Froch/Chavez Jr PPV could do about 500-600k range.

    People forget that Mexicans made up a big portion of the Mayweather/Alvarez PPV numbers. When Mayweather wasn't fighting a high profile Mexican fighter, his numbers plummeted.

    Those PPV buyers will buy Froch/Chavez Jr card instead of the Mayweather card. Arum could break even. Showtime won't.
     
  14. Imperial1

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    And Chavez jr sure as hell more popular than Maidana
     
  15. purephase

    purephase Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I think it's extremely generous to suggest anything greater than the Martinez fight when Chavez has declined as a TV draw since then, would be competing against the biggest draw in the sport, and would be taking on an opponent with less North American exposure than Martinez.