GGG vs James Toney at 160.

Discussion in 'Classic Boxing Forum' started by JohnThomas1, Sep 19, 2020.


Who wins?

  1. Toney by decision.

  2. Toney by stoppage.

  3. Ladies and gentieman we have a draw!!!

  4. GGG by decision.

  5. GGG by stoppage.

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  1. Mendoza

    Mendoza Hrgovic = Next Heavyweight champion of the world. banned Full Member

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    I'm asking you who do you think win GGG vs Canelo 1? Why is this so hard for you to answer?

    I told you three times, Jacobs is better than Jacobs, he beat better fighters, and lost a lot less. Those are my reasons and they are good ones. No, I think beating Jacobs is better than beating Reggie Johnson. Got it?

    Now once again, I'm asking you who do you think win GGG vs Canelo 1?

    GGG was past his prime ( Age 35 ) vs Canelo who was in his prime ( Age 27 ) Toney was in his prime fighting a past his prime ( age 35 ) McCallum. Note the difference?
     
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  2. THE BLADE 2

    THE BLADE 2 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    No, it is opinion ^. You are in an extreme minority view for the Toney-Mc Callum I view as well. It is not about opinion, it is about official result : https://boxrec.com/en/proboxer/356831

    But OK at least you have now implictly agreed that the Reggie win is bettter than the Jacobs win. Thank you. That is all I wanted to now.
     
  3. THE BLADE 2

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    What is Jacobs best win then?
     
  4. THE BLADE 2

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    Reggie's best wins: Collins, Parks, Guthrie, Julio Cesar Gonzales

    Again who did Jacobs beat, let's compare
     
  5. Mendoza

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    NO NO NO. It/s not an opinion, its fact that GGG our landed Jacobs in 10 of 12 rounds. Deal with it. Its fact he was robbed and I posted tis of cards.

    Now before you hit Dino status on Ducking, who do you think won GGG vs Canelo 1? I've asked many times, why can't you answer it?!

    Again I never said what you are implying. I said Jacobs > Johnson severs times. You are lying if you say say otherwise.
     
  6. THE BLADE 2

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    opinion.Who did Jacobs beat?
     
  7. Mendoza

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    how many of those guys were ranked in the top ten when Johnson beat them.

    Parks, good. Haha, your nuts! Look at his record, its full of nobodies, losing records and guys make their debut! The fight before Reggie Johnson, Parks all 5'7" of him fought an 0-11-1 fighter!

    Guthire, is very much like Parks! Look at record, it's full of nobodies. A difference? Two fights before facing Johnson, he fought a 8-5 fighter!

    Gonzales was decent ( 2001-2003 ) , but Johnson caught him years after his best wins in 2008. He lost 8 times.

    Who do you think won GGG vs Canelo 1?
     
  8. Mendoza

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    Answer my question can I can tell you. Why so much ducking?!

    Who do you think won GGG vs Canelo 1?

    Also don't lie about what I said even if you feel like you need to to keep up with me. Now, I have to log off, I look forward to your reply, that is if you can be honest.
     
  9. THE BLADE 2

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    Never scored it round by round,who did Jacobs beat? Reggie is a better fighter with better wins
     
  10. McGrain

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    That is not an extreme minority, at all, calm yourself.

    Most people had it a draw or one round's difference - in other words, most people who were ringside saw a draw as reasonable.
     
  11. dinovelvet

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    Ducking? when? Remember you gave more credit to Golovkin for stopping Ouma than you gave to Toney for stopping Nunn. Just because GGG was UP on the cards at the time of stoppage and Toney was behind.. As if to imply there is no difference between a 154lb journeyman an a top P4P rated MW :confundio1::facepalm::jaja-no:

    That was the last comment you made on the matter before you quit the debate....You must have realized you were making a laughing stock out of yourself. Like the time you tried to put Vitali's resume above Holyfields..lol!
     
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  12. Loudon

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    You have let yourself down so badly.

    Honestly, you’ve been such a poor poster on this thread.

    You are all over the place.

    The king of contradictions.

    You chop and change your criteria depending on your argument.

    Reggie didn’t lose a lot.

    Reggie lost less times than Hopkins, who you think would have beaten GG.

    It showed Toney’s level, having trouble with a fast southpaw?

    Many orthodox fighters have trouble with fast southpaws.

    GG has a small reach, he is EASY to hit, and he marks up. And more importantly, he’s never fought a top level, world class southpaw in his entire career. So you have no idea how he’d have handled Reggie Johnson.

    Now take your OWN advice:

    Go and WATCH Reggie fight, and see how you think they’d have matched up stylistically.

    You cannot predict the outcome of this fight based on Reggie’s Boxrec page.
     
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  13. Loudon

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    This is obviously another fight that you never saw.

    Yes, Roy easily beat Toney. But he didn’t beat him by using his jab. Roy hardly ever used his jab.
     
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  14. Loudon

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    Give it up man.

    You haven’t seen the David-Jackson and Castro fights etc.

    You haven’t used any logic.

    You are simply trying to claim a victory for GG based on the fact that Reggie lost 7 times.

    Now why don’t you take the following points onboard:

    1. If you’d watched Reggie’s career, you wouldn’t think that he’d lost 7 times.

    2. You have already noted that Toney, who was a top 25 MW, struggled with Reggie’s style.

    3. You think that Hopkins would have beaten GG, despite the fact that he had more losses than Reggie.

    4. GG never fought a southpaw as talented as Reggie.

    5. You haven’t once factored in how they’d have matched up stylistically.

    6. Reggie didn’t lose 7 times at MW.

    7. Reggie fought better opponents than GG, up at higher weights.
     
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  15. Loudon

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    Because GG beat him.