GGG vs James Toney at MW

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by Big Ukrainian, Sep 20, 2017.

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Who wins

  1. GGG points

    25.2%
  2. James Toney points

    55.3%
  3. GGG KO

    6.8%
  4. James Toney KO

    9.7%
  5. Draw (50/50)

    2.9%
  1. THE BLADE 2

    THE BLADE 2 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Nunn was better than both Canelo and Jacobs. He has a more talent and a much better resume than both at middleweight.
     
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  2. THE BLADE 2

    THE BLADE 2 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Toney by decision. Styles make fights. Toney prefers it when guys come at him. He also is very durable and has an iron proved chin. Still, it would be a competitive fight, nobody beats prime GGG easy.
     
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  3. Ilikeboxing

    Ilikeboxing Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Fair enough, I find current Jacobs vs Nunn a 50/50 matchup. Just because Jacobs is newer and hasn't beaten guys Nunn beat like the overrated Barkley or shot to crap Rondon. Kalambay is a decent scalp. Most people had Jacobs beating past it GGG by decision when they met, myself included had Jacobs 1 round up. That's a better name than anybody on Nunn's resume by the way, even if GGG was past prime he's still a better name than Barkley, Rondon(even in his prime) and Kalambay(Another World class operator)
     
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  4. Brighton bomber

    Brighton bomber Loyal Member Full Member

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    So a guy like Nunn who was regarded as P4P ranked 3rd and 4th in 89 and 90 isn't elite? A guy with wins over world class fighters like Starling, Curry, Barkley, Tate and Kalambay isn't elite? Nunn's resume shits all over Jacobs, there is no comparison. It's like comparing Murray to Golovkin, in no way are they even on the same level.

    As for your blanket statement that elite fighters never get KO'ed in their primes, having to make **** up to suit your opinion is asinine. According to you guys like Lennox Lewis, Joe Frazier, Terry Norris, George Foreman are not elite because they were all KO'ed in their primes.

    Every post in this thread from you is utter drivel. When the forum laughing stock Dino is schooling you, you need to step away from the keyboard lol.
     
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  5. Ilikeboxing

    Ilikeboxing Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Rickie Hatton was ranked p4p top five before. Doesn't mean **** really, does it? As soon as he stepped up to an elite fighter he got knocked out. I never said Jacobs had the better resume than Nunn, there's not many MW's at the world level who were willing to fight one another over the past decade. Jacobs has a bigger scalp though for me, as he beat GGG in the majority of people's eyes.

    You mentioned mostly HW's there who got knocked out in their primes, no **** they got knocked out, they're HW's
    Did you just call Terry Norris "elite" ?? Now who's the one making up **** to suit their bull**** opinion.
     
  6. BCS8

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    I had Golovkin beating Jacobs 7-5 + KD, but I felt and still do that DJ is the only guy at MW to seriously pose a threat to Golovkin. He's going to splatter some guys, watch this space.
     
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    dinovelvet Antifanboi Full Member

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    Murray wasn't a journeyman either , although he had all the skills and determination of one. He lost against a one legged Martinez , the same same Martinez who Cotto annihilated. Thats how good Martin Murray was.
     
  8. Ilikeboxing

    Ilikeboxing Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Its true SM lost a step in the fight vs MM but to say he was in the same condition like when he fought Cotto is completely bull****. Martinez had that SERIOUS leg injury after the MM fight. He was around on crutches late Oct-Dec 2013. 6 months later the Cotto fight when his leg exploded.
     
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    dinovelvet Antifanboi Full Member

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    Nah , his leg went after the Chavez fight. He went into the Murray fight after surgery and a lay off. He leg was no more. The only reason Cotto took the fight is because of how bad and limped legged he looked when he beat Murray.
     
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    yesihavearm2 ESB Chinchecker Full Member

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    lol is that guy seriously trying to say Jacobs is as good as Nunn?

    I was laughing so hard it took me 5 mins to respond.
     
  11. HerolGee

    HerolGee Loyal Member banned Full Member

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    we gotta stop saying jacobs is as good as nunn. we are giving jake la motta too much material for his new comedy stage act up in heaven.

    angels will be in stitches
     
  12. Ike-Man

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    No he isn't he lost to Kovwelav the first time Pimp C**t
     
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  13. Loudon

    Loudon Loyal Member Full Member

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    Yes, James was drained against Roy.

    Theoretically, yes he could have knocked out Roy had he have had the opportunity. But really, that applies to anybody who Roy fought. The difference is, Tarver was given the opportunity that Roy's other opponents weren't.

    I agree with you that James was better than Tarver. I think if they'd have fought at LHW and James had been at his best, I think he'd have beaten Tarver. But as the old adage goes: "Styles make fights"

    Even though James was better than Tarver, Roy would always have had an easier night against James.
     
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  14. Loudon

    Loudon Loyal Member Full Member

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    Still digging that hole huh?

    You have repeatedly labelled Jacobs as an A level fighter.

    Nunn was never elite because he got knocked out?

    Hey, it's boxing, it happens.

    Ray Leonard knocked out Tommy Hearns. Was Tommy not elite?

    Nunn knocked out Kalambay. Was Kalambay not elite?

    Tommy Hearns knocked out Duran, who'd just pushed a peak version of Marvin.

    There's countless examples to give.

    Nunn was never elite to you, simply because you're using BoxRec to rank him.

    Quit while you're behind.

    There's nothing worse than seeing someone defiantly argue about topics that they have no knowledge of.
     
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  15. Loudon

    Loudon Loyal Member Full Member

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    1. If you seriously think that Jacobs beat GG, then you are overrating GG.

    2. No, Kalambay wasn't merely a DECENT scalp. This is why we can't take you seriously. You've never seen Sumbu Kalambay. Kalambay was an A level fighter, one who beat Herol Graham, Mike McCallum and Steve Collins. It wasn't a decent win for Nunn. It was an absolutely incredible win for him, to beat him in such a manner. Nobody, and I mean nobody, could have predicted that outcome. GG hasn't got a win that comes anything close to that.
     
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