[GIF] Marciano punching Ezzard Charles (Good quality)

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  1. mcvey

    mcvey VIP Member Full Member

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    Slipped on the canvas is different to missing wildly ,losing your balance and falling over which Marciano did in several fights.I'm not the one pretending he had excellent balance, he obviously didnt! I'll respond to such bull**** anytime I feel like it!"
     
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    mcvey VIP Member Full Member

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    Life magazine reported: "Trying to knock the challenger out with one punch, the 29-year-old Marciano was over-eager and awkward. He lunged, butted, hit below the belt, on the break and after the bell. Once, he swung so wildly that he missed and slipped clumsily to the canvas. Outboxing the champion and avoiding his blows, LaStarza managed to win four of the first six rounds.
    The truth is the truth, and nothing but the truth!
     
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  3. blackhercules

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    Wow Marciano hit Charles with 10 plus punches and couldn't put him down. Even though Charles was a natural 175 pounder was knocked out 7 times. Knocked out by Jersey Joe Walcott a 190 pound fighter with one punch. Knocked down 8 times and out by Lloyd Marshall a 165 pound fighter who only had 36 kos in his 70 wins. But since Marciano knocked him out when his body was worn down and he had 98 fights lets make it seem like Rocky Marciano was the greatest thing ever.
     
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  4. mcvey

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    I have always maintained Marciano was an attrition puncher, relentless and heavy,he ground down his opponents till they were virtually stationary and unable to avoid his onslaught any longer.
    Due to his fantastic physical conditioning he was able to keep up an incessant barrage of heavy punches for 15 rounds at a consistant pace and would still be swinging for the fences in the last minute of a fight.
    Terrific stamina enabled by an extraordinary devotion to training.
     
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  5. red cobra

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    But blackhercules, in the thread "Boxer rates power of all recent HW legends", you are quoted as saying "But let me explain this to you. Just because one fighter knocks out a fighter and another one didn't doesn't mean the first fighter punches harder. Maybe the second fighter never landed his best punch or the second fighter could be a slow handed fighter."....seems to me that this could apply to Marciano in that 1st Charles fight, don't you think? It seems more plausible than your obvious agenda of downplaying Marciano's power.
     
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  6. mcvey

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    Does it also apply to the first Lastarza fight ,the two Lowry fights,the Applegate fight ,and the Cockell fight?
     
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  7. red cobra

    red cobra Loyal Member Full Member

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    Yes, ...boxing is insane with it's anomaly's exceptions and variables.
     
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  8. red cobra

    red cobra Loyal Member Full Member

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    Maybe that's because that when you're a 5'-10 1/2" fighter with a 67" reach, and a bleeder to boot, you should very well come up with a "Plan B" for your offensive output....instead of loading up for a one punch ko in every fight, you set in motion instead a barrage of punches, landing precisely on a specific target, or imprecisely on arms, shoulders, elbows, etc.,...and maybe that's one of the reasons why Rocky was undefeated, in that he didn't while away rounds waiting for that special "bingo" and instead, the opponent gets beat up nonetheless.
     
  9. reznick

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    Right, like I said, if he was a normal puncher he wouldn't have had such balance issues.

    If Marciano punched like Oscar De La Hoya, he wouldnt have fell over once.
     
  10. mcvey

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    Maybe one of the reasons he was undefeated is because his best opponents were 37,33,39/40, and 36?Two of them were also better light heavies than heavyweights. A poster made the statement that Marciano had superior balance. Its total nonsense, people believe what they wish to .
     
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  11. mcvey

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    Why didn't Foreman,Liston, Dempsey,Louis habitually fall over ? Do you think Marciano hit harder than them, how about Shavers, Williams,Wlad,Lewis where are the reports of them falling flat on their faces when they missed punches?
     
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  12. reznick

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    That is what I mean.
    And I'm not sure that's a tough one. I could see an early shutout, but if he can survive a few rounds...
     
  13. mrkoolkevin

    mrkoolkevin Never wrestle with pigs or argue with fools Full Member

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    I think that Charles loses in an early stoppage. If he can somehow survive a few rounds, I think that he loses by mid-round stoppage.
     
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  14. reznick

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    I was just pointing out the stylistic differences.

    I think which one is better is hard to figure out because I feel like their styles were tailor made for their physiques and natural abilities.
     
  15. mcvey

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    Rocky was of course fighting scheduled 15 rounders when champion.
     
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