Go back, Jack, view it again...we're scoring, Round By Round...

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  1. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Guy wants to name his çock 'macho' that's ok by me

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    Unless BE has possession of another poster, but I'm pretty sure I've narrowed down the list of places he might live (thanks in no part to him, the identity-guarding, ppersonal-details-held-close-to-chest punk! :mad:) to places where slavery is currently illegal.
     
  2. Zacker

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    How about some four rounders? I might actually play in that case.



    I'll start with round 1 of Simon vs. Wright and see how far I get...
     
  3. ideafix12

    ideafix12 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Round 1 shumenov
    2 shumenov
    3 campillo
    4 campillo
    5 campillo
    6 campillo
    7 campillo
    8 campillo
    9 shumenov
    10 campillo
    11 shumenov
    12 campillo

    campillo 115 - shumenov 111
     
  4. Drew101

    Drew101 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Fixed.
     
  5. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Guy wants to name his çock 'macho' that's ok by me

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    :think Interesting.

    Presumably you also had Campillo ahead comfortably in their rematch, as most did?

    They just have that sort of styles juxtaposition, where you are going to find a lot of divergent scoring. If they fought a dozen times, you could have a dozen sets of all-over-the-map scores. (although some may have clear general consensus as to who the deserved victor was, as was the case in Vegas...)

    I just can't see worse than a draw for Shumenov in the Kazakhstan meeting, while Campillo should have taken a wide decision (not a shutout or even 119-109 type, but not terribly close either) in Las Vegas. So for me they remain deadlocked (with the official results strangely flip-flopped as to who actually deserved them) with unfinished business that should've been finished between 2010 and 2012. Now, it won't matter if they have a rubber match as Campillo's prime ended with a bang. A couple of bangs, actually. Shumenov would likely stop him now and wouldn't get or deserve much credit for it.
     
  6. shenmue

    shenmue Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I'm about to re watch Maidana vs Kotelnik. i remember this one being super close.
     
  7. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Guy wants to name his çock 'macho' that's ok by me

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    That one actually IS already on my own personal get-around-to list and may be making an eventual appearance in here. :hey :good

    Last time I watched it (though I didn't record my score anywhere, this predating my takeover of RBR duties from Arriba) I had it close for AK. Not the robbery some claim.
     
  8. shenmue

    shenmue Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Just watched the first round and i remember this well now, its the same almost every round. Maidana throwing the harder shots, more shots sometimes but Kotelnik blocking loads with his guard and Kotelnik landing little shots. Really hard to score and it boils down to what you prefer.
     
  9. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Guy wants to name his çock 'macho' that's ok by me

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    :nod

    I think by the end people were lazily scoring just facial damage and raw aggression, instead of adhering to only the actual boxing scoring guidelines. (with clean effective punching favored...though you could definitely argue Kotelnik with more clean connects but Maidana's more effective, and find yourself in quandary ...)

    Hence the outcries of "home"-cooking.
     
  10. shenmue

    shenmue Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Yep, this really is the definition of a close fight, don't like when a lot of people say Kotelnik out boxed or schooled Maidana. After 4 got it 2-2 so far and the crowd goes mad when Kotelnik lands and deadly silent when Maidana throws and sometimes lands his bombs ha.

    1 Maidana (busier, landed the better shots, Kotelnik neat and tidy but didn't work enough)

    2.Kotelnik (Maidana mostly hits gloves, Kotelnik for busier this rounds, lands clean shots)

    3.Maidana ( similar to round 1, but a bit closer, gonna get this a lot as rounds are very similar, finding a pattern.

    4.Kotelnik (Better work from Kotelnik, cleaner shots once more)

    5. Kotelnik (same as 4 but Maidana openly getting frustrated here as he struggles to land anything big)

    6. Kotelnik (Kotelnik is a blocking machine, tough as nails as well, Maidana can't land much and Kotelnik just landing little shots again but much cleaner work, Maidana is throwing combo's but most are blocked and then he puts his hands down and Kotelnik goes to work, pretty close though due to MAidana's agression)

    7. Kotelnik( I've seen this round before, yeah like rounds 4 and 5 but a bit closer, Prefer Kotelniks work here again, Maidana needs to win a round soon...)

    8. Maidana ( Much better round for Marcos and Kotelnik dosenlt land much here and Chino is busy and gets through for the first time in a while, Maidana got momentum now it would seem ha)

    9. Maidana ( Huge round for Chino, hurts Kotelnik pretty good and domiantes the end of the rounds, Kotelnik looking shaken up after the bell)

    10 Kotelnik ( after Maidana hurts Kotelnik in round 9 you would think Maidana would also win this round but no, Kotelnik boxes smartly here and Marcos has no real success, Blocking fest from Kotelnik with him also finding Marcos pretty easily with good shots of his own)

    11 Maidana ( Maidana has his usual round where he just gets through more than in others, Kotelnik guard not working as well as round 10 and he gets rocked slightly to the ropes as Maidana does more damage in this round, some gave Kotelnik this round but again its what you prefer, MAidana round for me)

    12 Maidana ( Maidana dominates the first 2 mins of thsi round as Kotelnik just has his guard up buts eats soem body shots and upercuts for his trouble, bloody nose now and swelling but Kotelnik gives it ago in the last min but a clear Maidana round.

    114-114 i scored it, rounds 3,6 and 11 were really close i thought with others a bit easier to score. a much better fight than i remembered it.

    Kotelnik looked like he thought he lost when he went to his corner, shaking his head and looking gloomy, looked relieved and slightly shocked when the scorecards went for him by SD. Maidana looked in disbelieve but both probably realize now that it was a really clsoe fight in which Kotelnik took more damage but boxed better in a lot of the rounds.
     
  11. Drew101

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    Simon-Wright.

    Good fight, with a lot of shifts of momentum in the fight (and often in each round).

    Round 1: 10-9 Simon (landed the harder shots to shade it)
    Round 2: 10-9 Simon
    Round 3: 10-9 Wright
    Round 4: 10-9 Wright (Very close, pretty much 10-10, but Wright does a bit better work and shades it, imo)
    Round 5: 10-9 Wright (Better work with the jab)
    Round 6: 10-9 Simon

    Even 57-57 halfway through...same score as IB, but through a different path.

    Round 7: 10-9 Wright
    Round 8: 10-9 Simon
    Round 9: 10-9 Simon
    Round 10: 10-9 Simon (close, but Simon's D is on point and he lands the more eye-catching shots)
    Round 11: Wright
    Round 12: Simon

    115-113 Simon.

    Not much between them, and a scorecard of 115-113 Wright is hardly out of the question, but on the whole, Simon's harder punches and fairly effective aggression carries the day in most rounds.
     
  12. IntentionalButt

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    :happy


    It seems we mostly had it the same way, barring the 1st, 5th, and 10th...all of them close.

    Shame the experience seems to have jaded Winky on any further dealings away from the USA (never fought on foreign soil again over his next fourteen years of activity, despite having spent more than half of his career until then abroad, mostly in Europe...)

    A rematch would not only have been an extra helping of fun evenly-matched and highly tactical fighting, it would have perhaps brought some resolution and closure to an ultimately anticlimactic night. (through no fault of Winky or Harry)
     
  13. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Guy wants to name his çock 'macho' that's ok by me

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    :good Great stuff man, I seriously might do this one soon...but don't anybody get any ideas... :yep Don't think posting a scorecard for some random fight means I'll be all ******-see ******-do. As said earlier, this already happened to be on the working list in my head.
     
  14. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Guy wants to name his çock 'macho' that's ok by me

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    Did it when it happened:

    http://www.boxingforum24.com/showthread.php?t=276709&page=50

    115-113 Hopkins

    http://www.boxingforum24.com/showthread.php?t=465375&page=80

    114-113 Bradley

    http://boxingforum24.com/showthread.php?t=482260&page=78

    116-112 Broner


    http://www.boxingforum24.com/showthread.php?t=407858&page=180

    115-113 Pacquiao



    FYI, my RBR scoring for any card I've done here since 2009 can be found here: http://www.boxingforum24.com/showthread.php?t=374863
     
  15. jas

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    :thumbsup sweet, reading pascal-hopkins right now, interesting read.