Golota would beat both Klitschkos

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  1. lufcrazy

    lufcrazy requiescat in pace Full Member

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    Wlad and Vitali are two individual fighters. As are Golota and Bowe.
     
  2. jdoro63

    jdoro63 Member Full Member

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    Yes, I know.
     
  3. dinovelvet

    dinovelvet Antifanboi Full Member

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    The thing about Wladimir is this- - his offence diminishes a great deal if his opponent is moving in any way. He needs you lined up in a straight line or standing still .He'll never risk missing and being counted.
    Chambers , Ibragimov ,. Povetkin , Thompson , Haye , Fury .. He couldn't get a lock on those guys and was taken the distance and into the very late rounds.
    Golota at his best would be the best guy on Wlads record outside Povetkin and Fury. And like Fury he would take Wlads offence out of the picture. Not 100% of his offence like Fury did , but close.
    You must remember that Fury wasn't allowed to work on the inside out in Dusseldorf. Weeks rushed in and saved Wlad every time Fury tried to work out of the clinch and box. Fury was robbed of those close quarters exchanges yet he still won by a land slide decision.
    Peter Fury said on Boxnation after the Jennings fight that WK would get stopped if he faces Fury next and he was right. Wlad would have been battered and stopped by Fury if he had that ref who was ordered to officiate the fight by the NYC athletic state commission.
    Under fair rules Wlas isn't good enough to dominate a novice like Jennings. Let Golota fight by the rules and he gives Wlad enough angles , head movement , parrying , dodging and slipping shut to shut down his offence to get inside where he puts it on him like he put it on Bowe. And Wlad wont fight back like Bowe did and he won't hold up to the pressure like Bowe did. He'll hold and hold and eventually wilt under the pressure.
    This is all dependant on Golota being focused and not being in Germany , which he wouldn't be as giving one guy an all the advantges isn't how these situations work.
     
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  4. dinovelvet

    dinovelvet Antifanboi Full Member

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    He wouldn't have made it two years if he was forced to abandon his illegal back humping. Tyson Fury toyed with him. Literally toyed with him.
     
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  5. Seamus

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    He was 40 f*cking years old.

    Which other fighters do you measure on their performances at 40?

    But be happy, that's the most of one your posts I have read in years.
     
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  6. Mendoza

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    Golota did not hit hard enough to end a fight or spell the beginning of the end with one punch.

    I was a Tuesday nights regular viewer.

    Check his fight with Pouha ( spelling ) he was hurt and bite his neck to survive the moment.

    Golota looked decent vs Nicholson on Hbo but could not put him away, might have gotten nervous then head butted him. Nicholson could not recover from the head butt

    Andrew was a decent athlete but a bit over rated. A super heavyweight with skills but not the punch
     
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  7. dinovelvet

    dinovelvet Antifanboi Full Member

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    39. He was at the same point of his career as Mayweather when he shut out Pacmam and Berto.
    Berto = Jennings. Floyd at 39 didn't even work to win that fight.

    Nobody would have let Mayweather off the hook or gave him a pass if he lost either of those fights.

    Wlad got toyed with by a guy the majority predicted would be another routine KO victim. You can't pass that loss off with excuses.
    And its not like he was undefeated or never went life and death before in his career. Wlad just sucks bro. It is what it is.
     
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  8. drenlou

    drenlou VIP Member Full Member

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    Maybe Wlad, but Vitali I think would do a number on him.
     
  9. Mendoza

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    PAC man was way past his prime. Fury was at his peak.

    See a difference?
     
  10. Seamus

    Seamus Proud Kulak Full Member

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    Where was Dempsey at 40? Johnson? Louis? Marciano? Liston (alright he was about to fight Marshall a second time), Frazier, Ali, Holmes, Tyson?

    See how that works?

    Breaking down a fighter's style by focusing on a depleted version of him is intellectual dishonesty at its highest form.
     
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  11. he grant

    he grant Historian/Film Maker

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    I don't think this is a serious post. Golota dif not win one fight against a top tier fighter in his entire career .. he lost every single time, and then an excuse that he lost his game after the second Bowe fight .. come on ..
     
  12. GALVATRON

    GALVATRON Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    Not sure if the thread is serious or not but i'll bite....

    Golota didnt have Wlads jab/Ring IQ or defense alone with power and speed...need more?


    Vitali of 6'7 had a better chin and was mentally tough didnt hit as hard maybe as Golota but utilized his size and style much better,the harder you fought him the harder he fought back. you bring up Lewis and Peter yet A short fat guy named Samson Pa'hua rocked Golota all around the ring and he actually had to bite the guy on the neck to escape a knock out.

    How good is Golota ?Real good but hes no Klitcko's...two seperate types of fighters to deal with. He would beat many europeans b/c of skill/size and enouygh coaching ( not to smart )...but he was big and athletic,very good jab and basics.
     
  13. ticar

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    Wow you are amazing.
    Your words are "match ups should be decided on style not on legacy".
    Let me ask you who did corrie sanders beat? Washed up drug addict cooper, or a blown up lhw cyzz, or getting sparked by nate tubbs?
    Golota lost both times to bowe, but beat him up, albeit a past prime version and displayed great skills all around. He lost cause he couldn't put bowe out despite throwing everything he had, and boy was that some perfomance... Displayed all around skills.
    So it's a joke putting an undefeated, self confident, complete fighter who fights well outside and inside vs 1d fighters with suspicious chin and heart?
    But you are a known bowe and golota hater so i don't expect you to give objective view on these match ups.
     
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  14. jdoro63

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    Not quite. Even a past-his-prime Golota drew (not lost, drew) against a slick Chris Byrd. He controversially fell to John Ruiz via decision. Many felt the native of Poland won both contests. I will admit Golota was not quite the same after his rematch with "Big Daddy" Bowe, but the former did enough to win against both Byrd and Ruiz. We must recognize the sport in its entirety. We must recognize that in boxing, decisions in fights sometimes go to the wrong guy. But we shouldn't penalize guys who officially lost when knowing they really won but were snubbed by the ringside judges. It's all about levels in boxing. The quality of a fighter's performance in the ring should always come first.
     
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  15. he grant

    he grant Historian/Film Maker

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    Right, and this assumption is based on what Golota victory ?