Golovkin vs Alvarez 2, who has really won?

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by Alexxxx, Mar 26, 2020.


Who has won

  1. Canelo

    22 vote(s)
    21.6%
  2. GGG

    67 vote(s)
    65.7%
  3. Draw

    13 vote(s)
    12.7%
  1. Bustajay

    Bustajay Feel the Steel/Balls Deep Full Member

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    Nope. I steal it from your Moms
     
  2. Bustajay

    Bustajay Feel the Steel/Balls Deep Full Member

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    Follow me on Twitter @StoleFromIsalMomHouse
    I have “loads” I can dump on your face:pipi
     
  3. divac

    divac Loyal Member Full Member

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    I score fights round by round as you do. As well I don't give credence to the flow of the fight as in what the fighter did before the existing round, I just score the round period on the merits of what happened in that particular round.
    I did that both fights with Canelo-Golovkin and both times I scored for Canelo, competitive but clear fights imo for Canelo.

    You obviously value some criteria more than I do. I give more credence to the intensity and effectiveness of the punches being landed, Golovkin for example resorted to being an arm puncher for great stretches of that rematch, so his connects I didn't put as much value as Canelo who was consistently throwing his shots with more intensity and landing more directly at the target with the harder connects.
     
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  4. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Guy wants to name his çock 'macho' that's ok by me

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    It's really hard for me to see a path to victory for Canelo in either fight scoring RBR, but I do trust your judgment more than @IsaL's...
     
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  5. Babality

    Babality KTFO!!!!!!! Full Member

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    Look how angry you got. When you said you judged more fights than those fighters, you assumed, just like I assumed something. And you are counting the bouts these judges have OFFICIALLY scored. You've scored 0 officially. They've got you beat there by a mile. You have no clue whatsoever how many they have scored unofficially, however I know for sure they've scored more officially than you. Secondly, you are assuming I'm furthering Canelo's side. Nah, I just pointed out a bad argument.
     
  6. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Guy wants to name his çock 'macho' that's ok by me

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    Explain to me why any of those men would have once in their lives ever scored a boxing match unofficially (ie for free)
     
  7. Babality

    Babality KTFO!!!!!!! Full Member

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    Seriously? They are sitting at home watching a match and they score it cause they feel like it? if you think that's out of the realm of possibilities you are reaching.

    As you have pointed out, some of these judges have scored thousands of fights and they still get some wrong, proving that scoring a million times doesn't mean a thing. Why should it be different for you? People have biases, are corrupt, make mistakes, etc. Who's to trust you over someone else? That was just a pretentious argument on your part.
     
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  8. divac

    divac Loyal Member Full Member

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    Another GGG fanboy raising the original percentages of who originally had Golovkin winning.
     
  9. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Guy wants to name his çock 'macho' that's ok by me

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    Grind the numbers. Aggregate my favorability ranking versus any notable championship-experience professional boxing judge you can name, by stacking our scorecards up side-by-side against majority fan opinions at someplace like EyeOnTheRing.

    I'd wager dollars to donuts my approval score winds up higher than most judges - and not just the unpopular Adelaide Byrd types. And that's even including the many times when I was way out on a limb by myself disagreeing with most other fans.

    It isn't pretentiousness - it's a well-earned level of confidence in my abilities, which would be pretentious coming from any other forum poster besides me. It isn't the quantity I've scored, but the fact that along with that quantity my reputation among most has been exceedingly positive - save among butt-hurt fan-boys of specific fighters whom they perceive me as having not given enough credit. ;)
     
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  10. Ducklerr

    Ducklerr Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I’ve watched it 4 times. It was quite clearly the wrong decision in my opinion. It wasn’t Holyfield/Lewis I. But it was very clearly a bad decision and borderline robbery for me.
     
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  11. divac

    divac Loyal Member Full Member

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    I feel the same about the rematch, I don't see a path for victory for Golovkin.

    The first fight though I scored for Canelo based on landing the cleaner and harder shots.
    In that fight I don't have a problem with the draw or anyone that might have had Golovkin ahead simply because I can see someone scoring
    being turned off by Canelo's frequent periods of inactivity during some of the rounds where he was basically just circling around the ring
    without any intent of throwing punches.
    Because of the way Canelo fought, I can see where people value'd Golovkin's activity and aggression over Canelo's cleaner and harder connects.
     
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  12. DrederickTatum

    DrederickTatum We really outchere. Full Member

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    Only 8 people called this a draw?
    That genuinely surprises me.
     
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  13. MetalLicker

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    8-4 GGG.

    If I was feeling really generous, 7-5 GGG.
     
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  14. kirk

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    Just for the heck of it...


    This is EyeOntheRings archive of the fight.


    Out of the boxing professionals listed...


    13 have Golovkin winning,
    15 have Canelo winning.
    3 had it a draw


    Out of fans that have submitted their round by round card

    50 have Golovkin winning
    29 have Canelo winning.
    13 have it a draw


    Out of Media outlets scores

    33 had it for Golovkin
    1 had it for Canelo
    9 had it a draw


    ..............

    Huge disparity between the pros and the nerds, in terms of scoring.

    People like to glorify pros scores of fights.... but for me I tend to favor nerds scores and often find pros sometimes down right suck (imo) at scoring fights and/or are watching it from the stands and arent paying as close attention to analyzing it the way nerds are.

    Anyways... me I thought Canelo edged it but will have to rewatch it.
     
  15. kirk

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    As usual Rummys video on this is pretty good too

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