Good wins that are often discredited for whatever reason

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  1. Addie

    Addie Myung Woo Yuh! Full Member

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    Tyson had sex with Foreman Hooks mother.
     
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    **** YOU!!:twisted::twisted:

    teh truth is my mother was Raped by And that how she got pregnant with me, so i HATE ****ing Rapists like Tyson.
     
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    Roberto Duran w15 Sugar Ray Leonard- Leonard could have won but decided to fight a losing fight

    Sugar Ray Leonard tko8 Roberto Duran- Duran was out of shape and had a stomach cramp

    both embarrassing.
     
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    I'm so glad you included both, Teeto. 'Nuff said on those.
     
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    Both Addie, both, i feel the same way on both of them.
     
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    Both lacked experience but I would say Jones was prime. Hopkins was prime from like 95-03 imo something like that. You're right that Jones is the only man to beat Hopkins clearly though I felt he looked good not great against Hopkins. Also, Hopkins doesn't get credit for avenging his loss against Jones though we can all agree that Jones was clearly a shell of his previous self. I give Hopkins very minimal credit for that win. Not a "good" win by definition though lol.
     
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    Jones w12 Hopkins is a good addition here imo, people act like he hasn't beaten a 160 pound Bernard Hopkins, he has.
     
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    People also act like Roy Jones Jr beat the Hopkins that beat Trinidad and he clearly didn't. It's a very good win, but not a great one in my estimation.
     
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    Exactly, it's a very good win. Maybe i've just read more posts in different areas to you but the majority of what i've read seems to be on the discrediting side tbh. I rate it myself but i understand the pre-peak argument.
     
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    Although i know her to be pretty in her younger days, in that picture she looks like a burn victim, Addie
     
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    Even Joe's performance in the Schmelling rematch ?
     
  12. Addie

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    Well I have no sympathy for Roy Jones at all. It may come across as though I dislike the man, but I think he's a great guy and obviously a great fighter. He's my favorite commentator alongside Merchant. That said, as evidenced by my thread from a week ago, Roy Jones is thought to be believed top 5-15 by many, many of our posters. I strongly oppose that ranking. Jones and underrated aren't two words I associate with one another.
     
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    :yep Bit nasty, like. You're probably right, I should pick a more complimentary photograph of the musical genius that is Bjork. Watch this space.
     
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    Hopkins beating Trinidad often gets discredited too BTW. People say he was a "blown up WW" but that wasn't the case. He beat Reid & Vargas so it's not like he had no experience moving up from WW.
     
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    And blew away William Joppy. Trinidad was fine at 160lbs, Hopkins was great.