Greatest Underachiever Champion ...

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  1. he grant

    he grant Historian/Film Maker

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    When I review the heavyweight champions none stand out as under achiever more than Jack Dempsey ... I feel he had the skill set to be far more than he was in the ring ... he regressed as champ when he could have graduated ... more to come but thoughts welcome ...
     
  2. Boxed Ears

    Boxed Ears this my daddy's account (RIP daddy) Full Member

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    We all know why. Doc Brown (not the rapper) went back in time and told him to chill, because he was getting into Bert Sugar's top ten p4p list no matter what he did. Jack didn't have any reason to bother after that. His dreams had been realized to the fullest.
     
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    :lol::lol::lol:

    Can't see Doc Brown breaking the time-space continuem like that though BE - he knows better!!
     
  4. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    Roy Jones, Jack Johnson, Midget Wolgast, Floyd Mayweather, Charley Burley etc.
     
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    red cobra Loyal Member Full Member

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    Max Baer
     
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    DonBoxer The Lion! Full Member

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    Roy Jones Jr.
     
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    scartissue Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Roy Jones, Bernard Hopkins, Bob Fitzsimmons, Jimmy Ellis, Ayub Kalule.
     
  8. Duodenum

    Duodenum Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Most likely Dempsey's own choice for this thread. Jack was convinced if Maxie had his head screwed on straight that he coulda licked a thousand Bombers.
     
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    red cobra Loyal Member Full Member

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    :deal
     
  10. lufcrazy

    lufcrazy requiescat in pace

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    My 4 picks are the 4 who could have gone down as the greatest in the divisions history had they fought their peers:

    Johnson (championship defences against langford, jeannette, mcvey and smith)

    Dempsey (victories over langford, wills and mcvey)

    Holmes (unification matches against any of the early wba champs combined with a defence against page to ensure he keeps all 3 belts as well as defences against thomas and berbick at the end of his reign)

    Bowe (defending against lewis, fights against moorer, lewis, tyson, holmes, foreman, golota and then retiring in 99)
     
  11. heerko koois

    heerko koois Obsessed with Boxing

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    Great pick ! second place goes to Tyson ....
     
  12. sugarsean

    sugarsean Boxing Addict Full Member

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    All great but for to short a period

    Benny Lynch

    Mike Tyson

    Randolph Turpin

    John Conteh
     
  13. janitor

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    Prety much on the money.

    If Dempsey had been a more active champion, he could have built a resume which would stand scrutiny alongside the best today.
     
  14. Duodenum

    Duodenum Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I don't think he would have gotten a lot of mileage out of beating an aging Wills and outsized and outpowered Greb during the early 1920s, and there wasn't otherwise much of a contender class in the HW division at the time. Yes, the two Harrys should have gotten title shots, but even if Jack had knocked them out impressively, I'm convinced those wins would have been derided for the aforementioned reasons.

    No, I don't see any way his resume as a champion could have stacked up to Marciano's, Ali's, or that of Louis, no matter who he fought or how often he defended the title.
     
  15. janitor

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    If he defends the title more often, then he builds up his argument based on volume alone.