Greatest Welterweights in History

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  1. Journeyman92

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    How so?
     
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  2. NoNeck

    NoNeck Pugilist Specialist

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    Beating Cuevas, losing to Leonard, and beating a few B listers isn't top ten stuff.

    Pacquiao and Oscar De La Hoya did a lot more than that, for starters.

    Duran beat Leonard and Palomino. Hearns lost to Leonard and beat Cuevas. Get Hearns' ass out of there.
     
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  3. Mteslamiller

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    Blaxx, Luis Rodriguez was surely one of the greatest welters. I see that you rate him higher than most others do.
     
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  4. Mteslamiller

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    This list is based on a combination of accomplishment and how the fighters would fare head to head. Most of the greats would’ve had great difficulty defeating Hearns in a fight.
     
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  5. Mteslamiller

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    Mayweather was superior defensely. Do you disagree with that?
     
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  6. NoNeck

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    Considering that Hearns had very limited accomplishments at 147, he shouldn't be there. Spence and Crawford have looked first rate h2h at 147 and have done more than Hearns there.
     
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  7. Mteslamiller

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    NoNeck, I can appreciate what you are saying, but despite my high regard for Spence (my second favorite active fighter after Lomachenko) and Crawford, I would favor Hearns over either of them. ——Mark
     
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  8. NoNeck

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    You should call the thread “best h2h welterweights” then bc Hearns is nowhere close on resume.
     
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  9. Mteslamiller

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    NoNeck, I think we should also keep in mind that Hearns nearly defeated Leonard. That should be a factor in assessing him as well.
     
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  10. NoNeck

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    In that fight, he gassed out and got stopped because he really didn’t know how to go on survival mode. I think that gives evidence that he was beatable at 147 and that others would have a chance of pulling it off while down on the cards.
     
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  11. Flash24

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    Best welterweights in history . Head to head.
    #1 Robinson
    #2 Leonard
    #3 Hearns
    #4 Armstrong
    #5 Napoles
    #6 Griffith
    #7 Gavilan
    #8 Ross
    #9 Trinidad
    #10 Mosely
    #11 Deloyhoya
    #12 Curry
    #13 Forrest
    #14 Benitez
    #15 Duran
    #16 Cuevas
     
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  12. Mteslamiller

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    I have never quite bought that Hearns lost due to fatigue. He got caught by a sharp right hand that hurt him which was followed by a ferocious onslaught by Leonard. Hearns was looking pretty good just before that good right hand.
     
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  13. NoNeck

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    Either way, he didn’t tie up. It makes me suspect that someone like Crawford would repeat the task.
     
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  14. Mteslamiller

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    I like your list, Flash. Don’t you think that Jimmy McLarnin or Pernell Whitaker could defeat some of the men on your list?
     
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  15. White Bomber

    White Bomber Boxing Addict Full Member

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    True. H2H is one thing, greatness or accomplishments are another.
     
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