Groves refuses to give belt back!

My initial response to you was harsh but your talking about one of my friends there. Sorry about that. I can see how you've arrived at that conclusion all I can say is that if you met him - or knew him you'd be very surprised.

In my life I've met all sorts of people - especially in boxing and you'd actually be very surprised at who the arseholes And who the good guys were...

You can't really be judged by the company you keep. I have some childhood friends who are on the face of it absolute ****s but there still my mates. I'm sure you have some friends who might not act exactly like you do.

 

I probably would admit I am abit of Groves/Hayemaker camp nuthugger but not giving up the belt so it could have been handed to the winner is **** poor. SMW in Britain is a prestigious division and (no matter what i thought about the the fight and whether those two should have been in it or not) the belt should have been there for the winner allowing them to have their moment. Personnally i have said all along he should have given up the commonwealth title and allowed Anderson to fight for that while keeping hold of the british.

I still think Groves beats Anderson in a rematch because i think groves has improved alot since that fight and i still dont see the improvement in kenny. Posters on here who i generally listen to when they say something such as the bomber and dunk seem to think he is a quality fighter, i have no reason to disbelieve this but i still havent seen it.

Originally last night i thought Smith would beat Anderson on points, after thinking about it today i am unsure of whether smith has the skills to keep anderson off for 12rounds thus ive gone to 50/50 on who wins it.

 

Groves interview from midweek. Mentions Anderson at 5:30 onwards.. Pretty petty from him with comments of ''already bashed him up, let him get on''. Well hand the belt over then?...
[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HLwvsGPmSdU&feature=relmfu[/ame]

 

Anderson gambled. Hes always struggled to get chances, to get opponents. The gamble backfired, but sometimes you have to take risks in this sport. but Anderson did enough in ****ing Groves up that he deserved a 'proper' shot, even the most hardened boxing observer has to agree that Anderson did enough to deserve a rematch.

As for the weigh in? Groves had Anderson standing around for ages, before he appeared & made a big deal of stripping off slowly with a silly hat on, as usual he was acting like a dick & Kenny flipped after losing patience. Maybe if Groves had shown some respect to his opponent that wouldnt have happened?

as for the Degale Groves fight? at the time I was pretty neutral, I hadnt realised what a **** Groves was & at the time I believe I wanted him to beat Degale! When the score was announced though I believed Degale did enough, said here at the time & Degale got robbed cos everyone was dying to rob him, cos he lost the popularity contest. people always do when they encounter Adam Booth & his wannabes, Booth has a cult of personality that I cannot fathom to this day!

as for comparing well prepared Mitchell to well prepared Anderson?

No way jose. When I talk about a well prepared Anderson I mean a guy with a full training camp, NOT one weeks notice. Mitchell always had a full training camp but was alleged to cut corners during it. Big difference!

 

So, scoring a knockdown constituted "****ing" someone up? Laughable. If Anderson had ****ed Groves up he'd have won. He didn't. Instead he was the one who got folded over.

****ing hilarious! He acts like a petulant thug because Groves was taking his time? So it's all Groves' fault that Kenny can't control himself?

Amazing.

Well, considering most people (including the judges) felt it was a close fight that could have gone either way, to say it was a robbery is just ignorant. Scoring it by any more than a round to either fighter is absolutely shameful. Plenty of people on here revelled in DeGale's bullying but the reason he got booed was because he didn't back up his big mouth.

So was that a well-prepared Anderson who lost rounds to a shot Reid on Saturday? Just so I can keep that in mind.

 

a man with a weeks prep had Groves bambi legged, Groves was just lucky he hadnt met a fully prepared version of the one who had him down and almost out. Groves came back, got some bodyshots in & the ref jumped in. Kenny didnt complain, & neither do I.

as for the weigh in thing? swings and roundabouts.

& as for calling me a shameful ignoramous cos I thought Degale got jobbed? whatever rocks your boat DFT.

As for Kenny losing rounds to Reid? I dont get that argument. Reid is a vet who fought with the best, only a fool would expect Anderson to walk in & blitz him. Kennys team had their strategy spot-on IMO, be patient, let old Reid throw his bombs early, & after old Reid has thrown his best shots? Move in for the kill.

Eddie Hearn may have moaned, thats cos he doesnt understand the fight game yet. Im sure his old man will put him right.

 

'Nearly' got sent down for?

Death threats - and they must be from Anderson? That sounds pretty out there, can you substantiate that?

 

All this stuff is conjecture. There isn't a shred of substantial evidence for any of the claims that supposedly cast Anderson in this awful light. As far as I can see he hasn't gone Scotty Harrison on us.

Nearly getting sent down isn't the same as getting sent down and I'm sure the courts would have weighed things up with access to far better information than we can pluck out of our arses right now. As for the witness, so what? Again, baseless conjecture.

Who is mates are is really of no concern, as Jeff says you can't always be judged by the company you keep IMO. I'm sure we've all been assosciated with a low life at some point or other, thats life. Inadvisable if thats the case but if thats a reason to turn him into a villain a lot of us are ****ed.

As for the death threats, thats incredibly silly. Really is. The amount of Twitter warriors out there that have been plainly obvious in light of other events (I'm sure you know what I'm talking about here) - somehow I don't think thats necessarily the obvious conclusion to draw and again..at best its speculative.

As far as I can tell the guys pretty straight talking, doesn't massively blow himself up, is largely quiet and away from the spotlight and I really don't get it.

 

it reminds me of the Khan v Mcloskey nonsense

they just can't let it go

 

Agreed. Cases where the majority of the public and fans know who is better and will win easily, but the other party want a payday and another chance.
Somewhat understandably, but boring match-ups on both parts. Groves and Khan have bigger and better options. Even in Khan's current situation :!:

 

Anderson was eating right hands last night.

I have always been keen on Anderson doing well (Search my posts and I'm sure you will see this, but thought he looked very poor last night. Groves really has improved a huge amount and I think he would make this a cake walk at this stage of Kenny's career. Maybe it is the lack of fights? I'm not so sure, but he doesn't seem to be improving.

The Sierra guy that Groves faught would be an interesting opponent for him. Smith carry's the power to hurt Kenny but I'm not sure his chin will be up to the job.

I hope that fight gets made because this is the calibre of fighters he needs to be facing.

I re-watched the Anderson vs Groves fight yesterday.

Groves performed no-where near as badly as I remembered. Kenny left himself way to open which IMO had little to do with the weeks prep.

He just always seems open to the right hand.

 

wonder if he took his ball home as a child

 

groves posted this twitter with the caption "here's me handing the belt over to Kenny Anderson"

http://twitter.com/StGeorgeGroves/status/260453465971642368/photo/1

 

Groves was one of my favourite fighters, I've never been so happy to see someone beat someone else the night he beat Degale, but I'm really starting to go off him, that photo is disrespectful no matter what, it's not his property he hadn't defended it for nearly a year, rules are rules let the next man try make a living no matter how much you hate him, it's childish.

 

What a ****.