Haglar vs Ray Robinson

Whoopee ****.

 

Hagler could beat Robinson. But Hagler would be wise not to give him a rematch.

Robinson wasn't in his prime at middleweight, although throughout the 1950's was a damn fine part of his career.

 

Agreed. No doubt in my mind that Hopkins would have handily beaten the Hagler who fought Leonard. He had the strength inside, which Leonard never had, brilliant counter punching from long range, and the tactical awareness. He beats the Leonard who fought Hagler as well.

If Hopkins ever fought the prime Hagler, he would have used the same strategy. Hopkins' always fights cautiously during the early rounds, then moves through the gears. He'd never stand and trade punches with Hagler for lengthy periods. Not that he would doubt his own punch resistance, its just not in his DNA to constantly trade leather.

Close, but I'd pick Hopkins via decision.

 

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This is the classic section mate, go and be a crashing bore elsewhere. :good

 

Good stuff Robbi, Hopkins is the man!!!!

 

You need to re-evaluate your thinking on Hoopin' Hopkins!

 

You're livin' too much in the past dinner!



Tho i still reckon old SRR is the man on his best night here. I think his speed and greatness would even topple the mighty Bhop.

 

SRR wins a close UD against Hagler. 8-6-1 in rounds.

 

I definitely think a prime Hopkins, more often than not beats the faded '87 version of Hagler who lost to an also past-his-best Leonard.

If we're talking prime-for-prime Hagler-Hopkins I think it'd be a potential classic, however I can envisage Marv being busier down the stretch of Championship rounds to take a close/disputed UD. Hopkins would be toughie for him though, no question. :good

 

Not in a Hagler vs Robinson thread I don't. :good

 

I knew you'd come up with a ripper ya ***** hahaha

Good luck in the Rugby, who would have thought us and NZ would both lose the same day i think it was. A very interesting final.

 

Alright John,

It was made all the more enjoyable when your comrades said England only had one good player (Jason Robinson, that is)

BTW i fancy "us" to get beat about 30-15 in the final, an improvement on 36nil anyway

 

The name gene fulhmer springs to mind.

Never down in his entire career, un-ko able, then boom 1 perfect left hook, game over,

Ray also made graziano take a 10 count, that was a RIGHT hander.


Just because someone didnt get ko`d doesnt mean they cant be ko`d, they just havent fought the right (or wrong) guy yet.

I also disagree with people who say hagler hit harder than srr, marv was an accumalitive puncher where as ray had greater 1 punch ko power in BOTH hands.

I still feel this 1 would go the distance, in fact Id bet on it but to think there is no way in hell that the mwt peak srr can ko marvin is a bit to far, after all, nobody took a better beating than lamotta & after the srr lamotta fight nobody probably did take a better beating than lamotta.

Ray had the speed, power & boxing skill advantage & I think he beats hagler.

 

Hopkins sure was the man.