Hamed vs Barrera

Can you imagine what Morales would have done to Hamed? :admin

 

Apart from the power all the things you list had just about stopped being used by the time he fought Barrera.Naz fought a bad fight and most people who folow the sport knew he was in for a beating as soon as the fight was announced.Im with you on the bit about the naz who fought Robinson(a proper good pro)That naz would have probably made things a bit more interesting and the fight may have been closer but in the end Barrera was just a better boxer than Naz and would always find a way to beat him.Robinson would have given Barrera a decent fight at his peak,yes he would lose but he certainly would not disgrace himself.

 

Spot on :thumbsup

 

Yeah he would have got knocked out.

 

Who exactly were these better opposition? Morales excepted?

 

I think anyone who questions Naz' skills other than a slegehammer punch should pay close attention to the Bungu fight. I hated the little **** at the time but he really was superb in that bout.

 

I watched the fight expecting to see the much lauded "Schooling" but didn't really see it. Yes Hamed got caught clean a fair few times but I felt he didn't have to do too much more to get up on par with Barrera. As said he was well and truly past the "Ego" crossroads and he'd fallen head over heels in love with himself.

At points around half way he actually realised he was up against it, started boxing a bit more and snuck some rounds.

If there was any lack of desire and conditioning and focus, the excellent fighting machine Barrera certainly was then, would find it and he did.

You can't account for peoples mental attitudes and Hamed for all his skill and entertainment, for me, will always be a could have been and should have been.

 

I don't have much to add about this subject but....

Naz was five years past his prime, at the end of his career, completly unmotivated and unfocused. If I remeber correctly, this version of Naz won four rounds, it WASN'T a schooling, it DOESN'T "prove" or "expose" all the negative things people say about Naz.

Would a prime, motivated Naz have won more rounds, or even the fight against MAB? Maybe, maybe not. Either way, losing only one fight in your illustrious career, to a prime version of an ATG, in a competitive points loss, is nothing to be ashamed of.

 

[quote="TKO";3474683]Who exactly were these better opposition? Morales excepted?[/quote]

Mckinney was better than any opponent Hamed had ever faced prior to his bout with mARCO. Likewise, whereas Barrera was demolishing guys like Salud, and arguably beating one of the best 122lb fighters that ever lived, Hamed was getting knocked down by Kevin Kelley and Augie Sanchez.

 

Thank you. That wasn't the question I asked. The question was who, Morales excepted, had Barrera fought prior to the bout with Hamed who was better than the guys Hamed had fought. McKinney doesn't cut it. He lost twice to Bungu for a start. A good world class fighter to be sure, but no better than Bungu, Kelley, Johnson and a few others on Hamed's record. Salud wasn't bad but was 37 and had about 10 losses. He's certainly no better than the above plus Soto, McCullough, Ingle, Robinson, Vazquez, Medina and a few more.

 

Listen guys it dont matter about opinions on if naz was motivated or if naz was 4 years younger or if naz had trained right. At the end of the day as naz would say, naz is one of the best britain as ever had and that is it, barrera on the other hand is a legend

 

[quote="TKO";3476432]Thank you. That wasn't the question I asked. The question was who, Morales excepted, had Barrera fought prior to the bout with Hamed who was better than the guys Hamed had fought. McKinney doesn't cut it. He lost twice to Bungu for a start. A good world class fighter to be sure, but no better than Bungu, Kelley, Johnson and a few others on Hamed's record. Salud wasn't bad but was 37 and had about 10 losses. He's certainly no better than the above plus Soto, McCullough, Ingle, Robinson, Vazquez, Medina and a few more.[/quote]

Point being, Barrera didn't look a vulnerable as Hamed did when he fought good class opposition. Delusional fans say Hamed was past his prime. NOPE! He was just fighting better fighters when he moved to America, but even stiffs like Kelley and Sanchez should have been blown away. Instead, they both made a mockery of the prince by knocking him down. Multiple times.

 

must agree with selfkill here,well on everything he says about naz,couldent have put it better myself

hoya and faisel have there opinions on naz,i think there are his brothers,or lovers.
only joking boys,i know you wouldent bum him:good

 

Yup,getting knocked down, then getting back to his feet, laughing and knocking them the **** out

It might sound stupid but I think the pics of the Barerra fight that are all over the net slightly cloud peoples memories of what actually happened - they are always the ones which seem to depict Barerra practically taking Naz' head off, but it was usually just that Naz was rolling with the punch and moving with it, if that makes sense. I mean he was already reacting to the punch before he got hit so he was sort of contorted backwards out of the way trying to dodge it, but still getting clipped.

 

i like it,contorted backwards trying to dodge it,awsome interpritation of naz getting beat by the MUCH better boxer:good