oh ffs sake mate... i honestly cannot be bothered responding to this tonight because its laughable. your trying to tell me a bunch of fighters who fought in the turn of the century and not one single one of them achieved anything remotely what Pacquiao, Toney or Hearns achieved are far greater than those three... well you make the case for them and maybe tomorrow i can reply.
you said that I behaved in a certain way...I disputed it. You want ME to link EVERY single time ANY link has been posted on this forum when I HAVEN'T rubbished it?!! As opposed to you linking TWO occasions where I have - which you say "always" happens??? You make no sense when you talk.
This thread shines for one reason -all of the hands taking turns pummeling a dope and chasing him out of the forum. Let's hope that this becomes a tradition because there are plenty of other imbeciles who need the same.
These guys wrote boxing manuals? I had no idea, could you please show me some links with the title, details of the books, or better yet a sample view of it? Are they as good as the Dempsey's championship fighting book? I wonder which other boxers wrote boxing manuals from the old school days. Benny Leonard was writing one at one point I think.
It was actually Driscoll, not Attell. My apologies. The Straight Left and How to Cultivate It by Jim Driscoll http://www.lulu.com/product/file-download/the-straight-left-and-how-to-cultivate-it/13220310 Physical Culture and Self Defense by Robert Fitzsimmons http://www.lulu.com/product/file-download/physical-culture-and-self-defense/12193399
Quarry mate, just leave. If you know your stuff then come back under a new alt, fresh start, no arrogance etc. If you're as old as you say you should have learned respect by now. I mean I teach 150 kids a day aged between 11-16 and at that age they have the sense to listen when being educated. Those who don't usually end up on the wrong path. I'm not being patronising by the way, you are being educated here. You clearly didn't know a lot about him, you have since found he has beaten the best of his era bar wills and dempsey. Seriously man grow up. No one who regularly posts on the classic can have so little appreciation for such a great man. To claim hearns and toney achieved more than greb is damn right laughable. In 1919 alone greb has a better resume than pretty much any boxer in history.
This Greb nuthugger stuff I do believe Mickey Walker may have been the numero uno of this category. Remember Lew Jenkins rule when streetfighting?? He'd stick one hand in his back pocket and cook the guys face off with the other Can ya imagine the Mick!!!??
At the end of the day, the only absolute that you have when comparing fighters from different eras, is what they acomplished relative to their era. In that respect Greb kicks just about anybodys but, whatever measure you choose. Wins against elite fighters. Wins against lineal champions. Wins against hall of famers. Depth, frequencey, dominance. The only plane where anybody can surpass him is the plane of the theoretical.