Harry Greb, head to head vs. the great middleweights

ManBearPig, Forget about Greb playing around with a 55 year man..You claim he does vnot look good TECHNICALLY, based on sparring with an old man...I have seen time and time again BEAUTIFUL TECHNICIANS like Barney Ross,as good a technician as any boxer in history overwhelmed by a dynamic swarmer,Henry Armstrong,and get a drubbing...I've seen as sound a boxer that I ever saw,Tippy Larkin bet flattened by a non stop puncher Beau Jack,and oh yes I saw the great Sugar Ray Robinson,as great a technician that ever lived, take a beating from a technically berift Ralph Tiger Jones in 1955...If you want Beauty go to a Beauty Parlor..In the ring whatever works, you do to win, and in the trenches no one did it as well as Harry Greb...Keep punching...

 

It didnt bother him aside from the fact he got his ass kicked.

Oh and chin/durability usually get better as you get stronger and the neck/back/legs get stronger

 

Yes the Gibbons brothers were past prime, both well into their 30s after long careers when they lost to Greb. Flowers was past prime but so was Greb then. Miske - Im not sure if his degenerative disease had taken over him by then

Tunney/Loughran were clearly pre-prime, not as good as they'd become later, both would beat him as they improved. As for the argument of Greb beating Tunney 2-3 times, it seems more arguable Tunney beat him 3 times than vice versa

Yes Greb was blind in 1 eye, so was Frazier though, who knows how it affected him or what state his other contemparies were in with such a high number of fights

 

Tommy Gibbons was 29 when he lost a newspaper decision to Greb, 30 years old when he lost again. Mike Gibbons was 31.

 

Fair enough I remembered those wrongly, Greb was the younger man though and with both men he drew the series of fights with

 

He fought Tiger Flowers a few years before their World title series. Basically, PowerPuncher hates the plaudits Greb gets purely because he's White: PP thinks blacks are superior and that Floyd is the GOAT.

 

1. Im pretty sure you'll find Frazier was blind in 1 of his eyes, at least legally blind

2. Close fights we havent seen, there seems to be more evidence that Tunney eged the series though

3. Why do you say they werent past their prime when the evidence points to the contary? They were aged in the days when fighters had shorter primes and when Greb goto the same age, you claimed hes past prime. They also seemed to perform better prior to this and ofcourse both beat Greb when they were younger

4. I'm not sure what thats based on, Flowers maybe have been further from prime for all we know. Maybe he was just 1 of the best and toughest styles Greb encountered being a southpaw.

 

When Fleabrain can't debate he make ups lies, go and watch Arguello get outboxed, outbrawled and ko'd by Pryor and go and :|

 

Fantastic hypocritical response mate:good

 

Why don't you tell everybody exactly why thats hypocritical, if you actually understand the definition ****wit

 

Because you make up loadsa stuff. Such as Arguello 'had no jab'.

 

I dont make up BS about fellow posters, you bring zero value to any debate, you're not smart enough you thick ****

Arguellos jab takes aprox the same time to throw and recoil as the time it takes a true great to throw 6punches, prefer that 1

 

Touched a nerve have I. Calm down for godsake, the amount of times we've had arguments and you're flipping right out.

You do favour black fighters, that is evident in your posts. I don't feel I'm a 'thick ****' neither do I think you are, I also think I add stuff to debates, just as I think you do.

Sorry if I offended ya but don't take it to heart; it's only the internet:good