Harry Wills resume UNDERATED....

The type writer ,owned by Jack Lawrence ,actually did Dempsey no favours at all,Jack landed on it and tore his rectum open,lying sprawled on the writers table he kicked one of the judges in the eye in his rage ,trying to get back in the ring,the writers ,out of self preservation pushed him away from them,as he screamed in his high piping voice ,"get me back in there ,I'll fix that son of a *****".That comes from a statement made by famous writer Hype Igoe ,and is backed up by Lawrence the owner of the type writer .Dempsey ,far from being nearly out ,was in a rage, spiiting blood

 

Ive read articles from the old Ring mags saying Wills manager fed him a diet of "well chewd meat ",while he waited for a chance to fight Dempsey ,King Tut amd Kid Norfolk were undersized and also quite old when Wills beat them,reports talk of Tut visibly trembling when he faced the very large Wills.I don't blame Wills manager ,why jeopardize a chance at the title by taking on the likes of Godfrey.But it is a little ironic that Wills may have avoided the original Big George as much or more than Dempsey is accused of avoiding him.
After all Dempsey did sign for the Wills fight.

 

Right. Guys who are out of it, never come close to getting back into the ring, let alone flooring and taking out their opponents in the next round.

 

Just like to say Suzie ,Ive enjoyed the argument with you,very stimulating!

 

Thoughts on the Firpo fight: I think the typewriter did more harm than good. And it's also worth noting that one of those KD's was barely even a flash knockdown. Also worth noting, Dempsey was out on his feet after the first KD and still dominated the round, then came out fresher for the second and took care of business in quick time. Also, I don't believe Dempsey was prime for that fight.

 

Did the typewriter grow arms and legs? Sorry, I'm high and the idea of a typewriter with limbs amused me. Just a misunderstanding.

 

Norfolk and Tut undersized? What about Gibbons, Carpentier and Tunney? It goes both ways.

 

Norfolk was 5 8 to Wills 6' 3 ''or 4'' and giving him around 40lbs.

 

You are correct Dempsey was in more trouble from the 1st knockdown,infact between rounds he asked Kearns" what round was I knocked out in ?".Kearns replied "Yah still in there keep punching and knock this bum out".This is taken from Dempsey's biography,Jack was in total command of his senses when he was on the writers table ,his only concern was to get back in the ring and pulverise Firpo.

 

Norfolk was five eight but he weighed a solid 180 pounds and was one of the top light heavies/heavies of the teens and twenties. Gibbons who got a shot ducked him for years before finally fighting him when he was shot, he beat Miske who got a shot, he would have demolished Carp who got a shot, he actually dominated Siki who demolished Carp. When Dempsey had so much trouble in his defense against Brennan the reporters afterwards advised him to avoid Norfolk who was in Brennans stable and helped him prepare for Dempsey and looked better than Brennan.

 

So what if we compare Wills and Dempseys resume head to head:

Langford: won 17 lost 2 (31yo first fight)
McVey (30yo first fight)
Jeanete (34yo first fight)
Kid Norfolk (prime)
Denver Ed Martin: 1st round ko
Firpo
Fulton: 3rd round ko
Meehan
Bill Tate
Jeff Clark

VERSUS

Sharkey (cheated)
Willard
Firpo
Levinski
Gibbons
Carpentier
Gunboat Smith
Fulton: ko1
Flyn: 1-1
Meehan: 1-2-2
Miske:1-1-0
Breenan

Overall Wills fought and beat the better fighters, pity neither fought Greb

 

Dempsey's record against Meehan was 1 w 2l 1d
His record against Miske is2w 1d.
It should be noted that Meehan had wins over
Jim Barry ko 3rds
Jeff Clark pts
Langford pts
Al Norton pts
Jack Dillon pts
And draws with Al Norton x2,Tom Cowler,and Miske.