Has the muscular build affected JMM negatively

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  1. sbbigmike

    sbbigmike Boxing Addict Full Member

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    People talk about how he looked out of shape vs Mayweather, but he still possesed his hand speed, and was able to throw his his edjucated combo's, watch the highlights below,

    [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jE2w4nJlk0Q[/ame]


    Now fast forward to Manny vs JMM 3 he's obviously bigger and his whole body type has transformed, which IMO terrified Manny somewhat and had him apprehensive, but if people payed close attention, he was only throwing no more than 2-3 punches at a time, and long gone where the beautiful picture perfect combo's, his movements punches weren't crisp but at times wide, and not uniform like in past, he also didn't have the energy to keep coming forward like he did until round 12 vs Mayweather, he gave up a match he was easily winning, because he was dead tired by round 10, and I believe you can blame the unnecessary bulk, even though I felt he dominated Manny winning 10 rounds, the decline in his punching technique is extremely noticable


    http://youtu.be/Rqh6_XPN78I?t=3m21s


    Then JMM goes back to his old self picking on D class fighters, he fights Serhiy Fedchenko, he looks bulked to the max, and simply looks ok vs the overmatched opponent, and long gone is the educated counter puncher, he is now a stalking boxer puncher, he can't string together those combo's at all really cause of the bulk, and is slightly off on his counters a second late, slightly mis-targeted, and his footwork that he showed in the Manny fight is almost non existent, he's getting hit with flush shots against someoen who had no business in the ring with him, IMO he's declined greatly form the Manny 3 match, and all cause of his body type, watch below and look with non-biased eyes and the decline is evdient

    [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mMUF8zn4LHY[/ame]



    People like to say JMM looked shitty a WW facing Floyd, but that had nothing to do with wieght and everything to do with Floyd, his technique was still sharp, he was throwing blinding combo's, which was avoided from Floyd's ATG D, and he even was able to catch Floyd with overhand right after overhand right, he hit Floyd with as much clean flush powershots as anyone I seen FMJ fight. Where as the Manny 3 fight I felt the bulk suited him and the power increase made Manny respect him, and work to his advantage, even though his stamina was shot by fights end. His last match I wasn't at all impressed with him not one bit, dude is a muscle head now who throws wide looping punches :verysad, I truly feel if Manny has it in him to bum rush him like in the first match he will brutally KO JMM.


    Am I do the only one who's noticed the decline in JMM technique because of his bulk???????





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  2. oibighead

    oibighead G.O.A.T. Full Member

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    Yes, he is slow and bloated at the weight according to *******s when they look at Mayweathers resume.
     
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    :lol:
     
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    dangerousity Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    :rofl

    PBF fought a fat bloated JMM who was jumping 2 weight divisions for the first time and was cheated on the scales before JMM got a hold of PED expert Herrera.

    And the reason JMM strings combinations vs PBF is because he is not afraid of PBF's power. Against Pac JMM plays a very careful fight and doesn't follow up with punch combinations as often cos he might get caught in the process. If JMM fought Pac like he did Katsidis or Diaz for example, he would get KTFO.
     
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    sbbigmike Boxing Addict Full Member

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    :patsch no point in trying to have a educated thread here for once
     
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    oibighead G.O.A.T. Full Member

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    Looks like we got a comedian here :lol:
     
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    Slothrop Boxing Junkie banned

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  8. Ahurath

    Ahurath Boxing Addict Full Member

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    You don't think age has anything to do with it?
     
  9. Uncle Rico

    Uncle Rico Loyal Member Full Member

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    Not as badly as Pacquiao not having a goatee affected him.
     
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  11. MrMagic

    MrMagic Loyal Member Full Member

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    Marquez had already deteriorated a great deal going into the third Pacquiao bout, and he still raped Manny from the outside with simple right hand leads.
     
  12. sbbigmike

    sbbigmike Boxing Addict Full Member

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    No Bulk has everything to do with it, a fighter usually has to take a ass whipping to make him officially shot,but he has been busy, facing C Class fighters and bottom feeders, he should have the legs of a fighter in his early 30's


    The JMM 3 fight wasn't the type of performance that a old or shot fighter would put on, against arguably the p4p best too
     
  13. MrMagic

    MrMagic Loyal Member Full Member

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    :lol:

    So you reckon his back to back wars with fighters such as Barrera,Juan Diaz,Katsidis,Casamayor,Pacquiaox3 has not taken anything outta Juan MAnuel?
     
  14. sbbigmike

    sbbigmike Boxing Addict Full Member

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    He looked great beating the P4P best in Manny Pacquiao, in his best performance to date IMO, you can't have it both ways




    What's the agenda here, really
     
  15. iceman71

    iceman71 WBC SILVER Champion Full Member

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    truth hurts fan boy

    floyd fought a guy that 18 months earlier had fought his entire career at 126

    and floyd had been 147 for 5 years at that point.

    JMM had over 50 fights at 126

    handfull at 130

    2 or 3 at 135

    NONE at 140

    NONE at 147

    youre the comedian