Hatton to be trained by Roach

You can't put an arbitrary number and say "well small guys slide after this age" or "big guys slide after this age". It depends on the individual fighter and their lifestyle, i.e. how many hard wars they've had, whether they balloon in weight, how late they started as a pro, whether they party too hard outside of the ring. You have to look at how each individual is fighting at the time to gauge where they are in their careers and being ranked #1 in the division, #3 p4p, coming off an 8 year unbeaten streak and a 3 round mauling of the #2 guy suggests a fighter in pretty damn good nick.

 

Tszyu wasn't old and past it that night, that's revisionist crap.

Calzaghe fighting Jones Jr. in his 40s when he needed a stairlift to get into the ring was picking an ancient past it fighter.

Hatton was simply awesome that night, not because Tszyu was too old - and making out Tszyu was old and frail takes away Hatton's achievement.

I see now your picking through Kostya Tszyu's career now - he apparently won his belts off old fighters as well?? Despite many saying he was the best 140lb champion ever

 

dick,that zfc is a tool of the highest order when it comes to hatton,he got one of my fave boxers in honeygan on his photo,he should take him off ,he don't deserve a british great up there if he is gonna ***** like a betty swallocks bum boy about another british great:good

 

I havent said anything bad about Naz widdy........I just dont think Hatton was ever as good as you think he was even though I enjoyed him fighting and went to se him fight many times live including the PBF in Vegas.

Surely the forum is about debate and not agreeing,if we all agreed on everythingthe n there would be no point in a forum would there?........Now chill out and stop taking Hatton comments so personally.

 

But thats one of the issues we keep going around and around on this forum, just how good do the pro Hatton posters claim he is? Most would just tell you he's been a decent world champ for the last 4 years, they don't claim he's an ATG or an "Elite" fighter (even before the Pac loss) while the anti-Hatton section seem intent on trying to rewrite every win of Hattons in order to try and discredit what (IMHO) has been one of the better careers of a post War British boxer.

 

Just to throw my orr in, Kostya Tszyu had actually had less fights that Ricky Hatton when the 2 fighters met in the ring, so despite Kostyas age, it wasnt as if he had loads more miles on the clock was it?

 

Thank you. Amen to this :deal

 

To be fair, yes. Tszyu had been fighting world class opposition since his fourth bout when he took on Juan LaPorte. Hatton hadn't been fighting at that level, though he had some decent opponents (Magee, Tackie, Oliveira, Stewart), he was clearly better than most of them. He did not have the mileage on the clock that Tszyu did. That said, Tszyu was a very well preserved 35, he had always kept in immaculate shape and hadn't had that many real wars due to his ability to dominate most of that competition. Tszyu was a bit too "unfashionable" for his own good in that Judah was the closest he got to a career defining fight. Most of the big names who could have given him that bout either jumped over 140 (Mosley) or stopped there only briefly (DLH, PBF)

 

did tszyu have a hard time making weight at the hatton fight? Seem to remember he had to weigh in for the 2nd time to get to the limit. Maybe he was weight drained.

 

so now we're actively searching for reasons why Tszyu lost...it simply couldn't have anything to do with Hatton being a decent boxer...

it's a shame ahuge percentage of his haters seem to be British as well

 

Wake up, that's been the case for about the last 3 years 11 months! We've heard everything from he'd only fought 3 rounds in 18 months (whereas if he'd gone 12 with Mitchell that would also have been a negative) to the 2am start time (I can only assume Hatton fought in a time warp) via alleged bad refereeing, Hatton's supposed dirty tactics (how dare he respond to two low blows with one of his own), Tszyu's age and anything else they can drag up! That's the great British public for you, hate on anyone near the top of the game, hence the similar scorn of Andy Murray, Tim Henman at his peak, Lewis Hamilton, Lennox Lewis and Manchester United.

 

[quote="TKO";4200089]Wake up, that's been the case for about the last 3 years 11 months! We've heard everything from he'd only fought 3 rounds in 18 months (whereas if he'd gone 12 with Mitchell that would also have been a negative) to the 2am start time (I can only assume Hatton fought in a time warp) via alleged bad refereeing, Hatton's supposed dirty tactics (how dare he respond to two low blows with one of his own), Tszyu's age and anything else they can drag up! That's the great British public for you, hate on anyone near the top of the game, hence the similar scorn of Andy Murray, Tim Henman at his peak, Lewis Hamilton, Lennox Lewis and Manchester United.[/quote]

come on tko,henman was a bag of ****,and murrys not far behind:hey

lewis hamilton is a one season wonder,and manchester utd have got that wanker ronaldo playing for em