Haye has ZERO chance vs. Wladimir or Vitali and he knows it

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Precisely.

 

That´s why he already bitched out of a fight with each Klitschko, right?

 

You say 'European' as if it's a negative, which is a joke when you are comparing Haye to the Klits. Where do they come from Kansas?

 

Did he 'run out of gas' when Peter put him on his arse 3 times in one fight as well?

My point is, Wlad hasn't got the best of chins. Haye could certainly exploit that weakness, so for someone to give Haye "zero" chance of beating Wlad is ridiculous.

Also, same goes with regards Vitali - who is an old fighter - and he fights old - Haye has fantastic speed and movement, so there is every chance that if (big "if") Haye could stay upright for the full 12x3, he could win a decision.

 

oh and another thing " Haye would be paralysed by fear " the Valuev fight was the first fight I've seen Haye be cautious but then the guy was 10" taller and 100 pounds heavier than him.

Wlad fights scared against guys like Ibragimov when its Klitschko who holds all the physical advantages.

 

Two of those knockdowns came from rabbit punches. Did he get knocked out? I can´t remember seeing that.

Wlad has not the best chin right but his style minimizes the chances of landing on him quite a bit and Haye himself has even a weaker chin and Wlad is the harder puncher. Haye has a chance, it´s just not a big one.

Vitali is not as slow and plodding as Valuev and he actually has a defence. And more power and a higher workrate and faster feet. If Haye fights Vitali like he did Valuev he may last the distance but would also lose every round.

 

What was so brave about fighting Valuev, who should have four losses instead of one on his record prior to the bout with Haye? Valuev was perhaps the worst beltholder boxing. He looked awful against a 40 year old Donald, a 46 year old Holyfield and Chagaev. When Wlad faced Peter, his career was on the line and Peter was an undefeated fighter with a high KO percentage. Vitali took on Lennox on 13 days notice. Vitali went into Arreola's backyard to fight a much younger, undefeated contender, who, unlike Valuev, actually kept trying to knock out Vitali. The top 50 HW's would probably have gone the distance with the version of Valuev that fought Haye, I don't think anyone below the top 10 would have survived against the Arreola who fought Vitali.

How does Haye have more courage than either Klitschko? So far, all he has that they don't have is a big mouth.

 

Vitali fights old? Did you happen to watch the Arreola fight? The movement, footwork and stamina? That's a baffling statement.

 

Wlad never predicted that he would embarass and KO Iggy, didn't make remarks about Iggy's looks or body odor, he never said other fighters were boring and that he would be the one to bring excitement back to the division. Wlad actually apologized for his performance against Iggy.

Haye bitched about Wlad's dominant performance against Chagaev, who beat Valuev easily, claimed to knock out and embarass Valuev, made siparagin remarks about Valuev, that he is the one to bring back excitement etc. And then comes up with a fight he won on about 15 clean punches and claims to be the best HW in the world, when others before him already did better against Valuev. What does size have to with it, Iggy clearly was the better fighter than Valuev, perhaps the harder puncher also.

Wlad was boring against Iggy, Haye was boring against Valuev, the difference is the lack of class and the obnoxious self - aggrandizing on Haye's part.

 

Haye will beat eaither of the Klitcho brothers. There you go, I have said it & I'm sticking by it!

It seems to me that when people say "Haye has no chance against the Klitscho's", its like they have a personal agenda behind such a comment, like they want him to beaten, like they are pissed off that he has become HW champ, etc.

Haye is good for Boxing & I see him continuing being good for the sport. Vitali & Wladamir have had some-what of a strangle-hold on the HW division. Not because they are so great, but because the HW division is just so weak. There is no depth in terms of talent.

Haye is the man to change that!

 

Haye will short circuit both the Ukrainian robots!!! :hi:

 

You really seem to have an agenda of your own. Haye is the man to change...what, the lack of talent you perceive? How can one man do that? He is one fighter, the Klitschkos cannot make the division more talented in depth and neither can he.

He may, perhaps, beat the Klitschkos as anything is possible in boxing and he has talent. So far, he has three HW - performances that several other HW fighters are capable of. Chagaev and Holyfield showed more against Valuev than Haye, Eddie Chambers would probably outclass Valuev and toy with him, as he did with Dimitrenko. Arreola would most likely have TKO'd this version of Valuev, Povetkin would have outpointed him, Solis would KO him.

 

Why does Haye have three promoters now: Golden Boy, Saurland and Don King? How is Don King all of a sudden involved with Haye? If you thought negotiations were difficult before between Haye and the Klitschkos, it's going to be even worse now considering Wlad and Vitali want nothing to do with King.

 

I think either Klitcshko will be a heavy favorite rightfully so, but haye has a better shot than most to beat them and hes interesting

 

How many times did VITLAY ***** out of a fight with the terrifying Hasim Rahman?

Of course, that was OK - because when he makes excuses, you believe them right? patsch