Haye has ZERO chance vs. Wladimir or Vitali and he knows it

I understand and I read your last post wrong. i respect your opinion:good
I hope it happens but I think Vatali might get the fight before Wlad does. Wlad is locked up with Mands and Vitali is looking 1 big fight before he retires... I guess time will tell buddy:good

 

well thats a whole other thread for that debate:yep:good

lets just get Haye past Ruiz and Wlad past his mands then we will see:good

 

And i yours bro

Pfff I hope Vitali ages dramatically before that fight happens

 

Thing is you act as if Valev was a strong opponent when he clearly is not.
I do understand that you don't like how cautious Wlad is, but he knocks people out at HW with his style who are faster than him, Wlad doesn't have a good chin, which is more admirable about him being on top for so long. Everyone has boring fights sometimes, I don't blame Haye for it but he was the one who claimed to knock the **** out of Valuev and delivered less than he promised. Haye is one of the fastest heavies, Valuev the slowest!
I wouldn't say the Klitschkos are superior because of their height and weight alone, they are superior in their fights because they are better boxers than the others.

 

:yep
I think 2010 will be the last year for Vitali depending on who he fights. His body has had enough IMO. 25 years of training, sparing and fights...WOW enough is enough

 

True he talked it up more than he probably should and yes Valuev aint a terrifying puncher but he must be strong and powerful up close , how can he not be ?

as for the rest of the points see above I cant type it all again :good

You know what has just occured to me... Maybe ( just maybe ) Haye talked up that he was going to attack to confuse Valuev. Just as Ali did to Foreman telling him he was going to dance then lying on the ropes !!

Its just a thought


( in case the irony isnt clear I dont really believe that myself ! )

 

No question , all those kick boxing fights too , he must be desperate to pack it in.

I dont know how these guys do it, I like to keep in shape but to live the life like that for all those years... man thats hard.

and then you get some keyboard warrior like me saying you aint aggressive enough....sheeeit !

 

Vitali's injuries required surgery to repair. haye's injury was to his back while he was shadow boxing...............no surgery necessary. In fact many insurance fraud cases are supposed "back injuries" because they are impossible to prove or disprove. Perfect excuse from a lame excuse for a fighter.

 

Fair enough! :good

 

Awwww no , who let you out of your box

how the **** are you Rusk , our paths havent crossed on here in quite a bit.

y'know on the brit forum I was championing the fact that deep down your actually a reasonable soul , dont make me a liar

 

hey your right and Wlad knows it. I think you will see a different Wlad in 2010. I think he has been coasting in some of his fights almost like he is just going through the motions..... We have had many conversation as well as emanuel steward. When wlad is pumped for the fight, it happens..Byrd, austin..ETC...thats why with all that Haye says and does might come back to bite him as it really got Wlad pumped for the fight. he was so upset when Haye pulled out. **** the whole team was:|

 

I did't mean that to sound rude migo you did make a very fair point

 

In all honesty if Wlad did come out the way he used to ( I'm thinking the Mercer fight here , that double left hook , yeesh ) Haye would have to be really lucky.

It was his mouth that got him the fight but it may well be his mouth that costs him it too !

 

You didnt sound rude mate, cheers.

 

So true Chef the blatant double standard, Haye gets free pass, actually kudos, for boring cautious win over molasses 5 losses Valuev, while Wladimir gets nearly condemend for being careful with dangerous Ibragimov.

Watch what happens when Haye W12 over the 40 yr old Ruiz, the Haye nuts will rejoice.

But the sad thing is though King and Sauerland will never ever put Haye with either Klitschko, without demanding at least 3 options, though K2 doesn't want or need any options on Haye - because they know they own him.