Haye is not even a real champion. He did not beat Valuev.

I want to ask you a serious question - If a fighter stays inside his corner and flails his arms around, despite his opponent being on the other side of the ring, does that count for you? If that fighter then stalks another yet lands not one single punch in the entire fight, has he done enough to win?

I'm sure you'll say no and, in that case, what is the difference between flailing your arms around when the opponent is on the other side of the ring and throwing shots at your opponent but missing?

 

It was not a good fight and was hard to score.I thought Valuev won it but not much in it.I can see why some people(including the judges)went with Haye but he did not exactly shine.I dont agree it makes you a bad judge of fights getting this one wrong.

 

:rofl < Look, a smily!

Whether you're trolling or not, all you do is come on here and moan about David Haye. That's it. Since you've been here I've yet to see you discuss anything other than him. So basically you spend a substantial chunk of your free time going to a boxing forum and whinging about an 'obnoxious dim-witted lowlife' you apparently hate. Does that not strike you as a bit odd?

Do you have no sense of irony? You moan and abuse the people who like him, but you talk about him more than any other ******* on the entire forum. For all intents and purposes you're no different to his most die hard, obsessive fanboys - you clearly spend as much time watching, thinking and posting about him as fans do, it's just that their threads are positive and yours are negative

You claim the fact that no one will argue individual rounds with you as some kind of victory, whereas the truth is that the fight was so incredibly dull that no one cares enough to go back and rewatch it. It's like a wheelchair bound, handicapped kid claiming to be the hardest guy in the world on the basis that no one will fight him - it's a complete failure to grasp people's true motivations.

Obviously you're free to do what you like, but if you really hate him that much why not stop posting about him and discuss fighters and fights that you DO like? Why not make a decent contribution to the forum instead of talking solely about one of the most boring fights of the decade, or abusing people with different opinions to yours?

 

I liked to mess with Haye fans when the fight happened. The fight was definitely HORRIBLE fight. Haye was barely fighting, and Valuev was ineffective. It was just awful. I really didn't care who got the decision that night because neither deserved to win. One thing was for sure... Holyfield did much better against Valuev than Haye did.

 

Valuev barely landed a punch on Haye all fight.


Don't see how anyone could have scored it for Valuev.

 

The Haye-Valuev fight aside, as it was ****, I'd like to ask you some general questions based on your post:

Do you only like fighters who go toe to toe with opponents?

Do you class all fighters who rely on movement, footwork and have quite low output as 'having no balls'?

Do you ignore the necessity of using difference approaches against different fighters depending on their, size, strength, speed, punching power and punch output?

 

I'm not going to rescore this fight because it was extremely boring and painful to watch, however I did have Valuev winning this fight at the time. I dont understand what people are talking about when they say that Valuev was missing with punches and Haye was connecting. Haye was throwing single digit punches per round and even if he connected couple of times so did Valuev.

 

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:rofl

I like your style!

 

You've previously said you thought Valuev did win. Ridiculous.

Anyone who thinks it was close does not know how to score a fight.

 

Nobody was asking Haye to go toe to toe with Valuev. He could have at least did what Chagaev did and go in and out on him the whole fight but he wouldn't. I mean Haye is so fast he could have hit Valuev 3 times and just got out of range. Why didn't he do this? Plus, you had Haye talking of a KO before the fight and all this other stuff then he delivered a fight that was more boring than Byrd-Williamson which I didn't even know was possible.

 

Rico - I don't get why you've written this to me. I asked the poster a general question about his views on boxing because of what he said. I explicitly stated that this was nothing to do with the Haye figh, as it was a huge pile of shite.

I especially don't know why you're asking me why Haye didn't fight in a certain way! How the **** am I supposed to know? (or care)

 

You made the point of asking why should Haye go toe to toe and I simply answered that nobody expected him to but to run backwards (literally) and throw 11.9 punches a round against such a **** opponent is a disgrace. Do you understand this?

I am sure when he does the same thing against Wlad there will be other excuses, theories etc.