Haye was a beast in CW. He deserves his dues for what he did at that weight. But what people remember him for is the Klit fiasco. That is what he is renowned for now. If Haye fights either of them this year I'll give him props. I can't see it happening though.
He's "renowned" for not fighting Klitscho? When Setanta went bust and the funding for his purse fell though? That happened but, unless they've changed the definition of the word, "renowned" is a very poor choice.
Ignore me then if you think I am a troll. I want to have a discussion not a slagging match. You are the one behaving like a troll here.
Speak for yourself. I think anybody with a sensible head on their shoulders would know him as a former unified cruiserweight champion and guy thats just stepped up and won a belt and has started his heavyweight campaign well. Only if you pay more attention to what goes on outside the ring than what happens in it would you think that.
He stole the word from me, he probably didn't even know what it meant until I used it and he looked its definition up on dictionary.com.
He is seen by the majority of the boxing world as the guy who made a lot of noise about unifying the division and running his mouth off and then getting suspect back injuries around fight time leading to two agreements to fall through. Very few people outside of the UK took notice of him until he called out the Klits so this is what he is viewed as by most.
That has jack **** to do with why he's hated in the General forum and by Americans in general. They were on his ass before he even backed out of the fights, if thats what happened. Can't say I followed all the negotiations and it never ceases to amaze me how many people spend more time talking about fight negotiations than boxing. Everybody hates him because apparently its not cool to talk trash unless you are an American. If James Toney does it 'yeehaw go James!'. Not so much for a Brit. That's what I've observed, its pretty transparent because people were talking **** long before any of the Klitschko sagas. That just added fuel to the fire.
Oh yeah, if it's Mayweather it's cool also. He can dodge all the fighters he likes, but he's a Hip Hop gangsta, so it's alright!
The Wlad fight fell through because Hayes purse went missing. Simple as that. The Vit fight went south because of the options Vitali wanted, that sort of stuff happens in contract negotiations. I wouldn't say these 2 issues define how he is seen by the boxing world at all. I would say he is best known in the boxing world as the WBA heavyweight champion of the world rather than the guy who saw to proposed fights fall though.
Yep, the number of financial experts and contracts lawyers on the General Forum far outweighs the number of boxing fans.
Haye's best known for making Maccarinelli do a funny dance, doing the same to Valuev and getting up to knock Mormeck out cold. I've noticed that too. Suddenly everyone knows what is in contracts despite never seeing them.