Haye: "Vitali is Boente's puppet, he does what he is told"

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  1. CHEF

    CHEF Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    :deal:thumbsup
     
  2. Heavyrighthand

    Heavyrighthand Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    ...........as I recall, Briggs stated how pleased he was with K2 in making the Vitali fight.
     
  3. MrSpeaker89

    MrSpeaker89 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Chef, do you feel Vitali is slowing down? What is he like training? Is his strength, conditioning and general stamina as good as ever? And his power, do you feel he has lost some power? It would be good to get your views on him.
     
  4. Jack

    Jack Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Why are you praising that post when there's another in this thread which proves him to be a liar? You're a liar too.
     
  5. Cableaddict

    Cableaddict Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Well, I realize I'm just an imbecile, but I'll take a shot:

    1: You must fight both of them because they are still ranked #1 & #2 in the world, by anyone's standard.

    2: They stage the events & take the larger part of the purse because HAYE NEEDS THEM, but they don't need Haye. It's not a slave contract, just a standard business situation.


    - but what do I know? I'm just an imbecile. :cool:
     
  6. CHEF

    CHEF Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    im not going to go quote by quote.. to long......but example

    First briggs fight was a Finkle mistake and he was almost fired for it... 2nd fight Briggs was totally happy and he said that right to my face

    Byrd... we have the same lawyer. Was totally happy dealing with the brothers and to this day, byrd and the brothers are friends

    Chisora signed the deal in 5 days

    Valuev turned down biggest payday of life (or close to it) His PROMOTER didnt want it

    haye got 50-50

    Adameks promoter talked about how easy it was


    ETC ETC ETC

    You think fighters are going to just take what the brothers offer right off the bat, not they will push as hard as they can to get TOP TOP dollar.... its called negotiations

    FUNNIEST... Fury talks about low ball offer.... they have never even sent him an official offer.... so who is the liar on that one?

    you have been talking contract **** for years. its old already
     
  7. doylexxx

    doylexxx Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    how come Chisors got DOUBLE athe amount versus Haye.

    Not a bit more- DOUBLE ?

    Why do all these fighters today Klits are ripping them off, is it a conspiracy ?
     
  8. CHEF

    CHEF Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    obviously Vitali is at the twilight of his boxing career. He has slowed but IMO is still a great fighter and would beat anyone out there....... Haye included

    He trains as hard as the first day I started working with him when he came back. Problem is, the body breaks down easier then before. The guy is almost 42. One thing about both Klitschko, they work harder than anyone I have ever seen before

    IMO i think he retires..... but...... once he gets the blood flowing agin watching Wlads camp and fight..... maybe, maybe he fights 1 more time
     
  9. doylexxx

    doylexxx Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Sanctioning bodies have no say on "splits" that they dont generate , in multi million dollar fights.

    Off the top of my head...


    Hatton Vs Tszyu


    The IBF controlled both guys purses is that what you really think ?
     
  10. fg2227

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    I wish Vitali would make a deision this has been dragging on long enough.
     
  11. CHEF

    CHEF Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    come on bro. I know you know boxing.:good Every deal is different. Chisora became a name after Vitali with the Haye/Chisora fight at the presser. PLUS both from UK... it was a total different situation from the Vitali-Chisora fight

    Chisora could demand more from Haye after the scrap, thus he got more
     
  12. CHEF

    CHEF Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    think about it... the guy has been in sports since he was 15... its not easy to decide if you are done or not.

    I dont care how long it takes. I just want him to be happy with his final decision, what ever it is
     
  13. fg2227

    fg2227 Guest

    Fair enough Chef some good points.
     
  14. seansanashee

    seansanashee Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I would love to see Vitali KO Haye but at the same time, I would like to see Vitali step aside so that Wlad can pick up the last remaining major title.
     
  15. KCD

    KCD All aboard. Full Member

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    Well said Chef :good