Haye will use Wlad's size against him and knock him out...

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  1. Beatle

    Beatle Sheer Analysis Full Member

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    Axe Man, I think you are correct. Wlad does not like to be crowded, and David Haye is going to do just that. Wlad needs space, in order to take advantage of his jab and great precision. He is very similar to Roy Jones and Vic Darchinyan.

    David beats Goliath by KO. But then the other Goliath (Vitali) will destroy him in about two minutes.
     
  2. Beatle

    Beatle Sheer Analysis Full Member

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    David Haye is not going to get tired. He learned that lesson when he fought Carl Thompson and his corner threw in the towel. This time he will train properly and dose his energy better.

    The problem with Wlad's superior offense is that he doesn't use it. Did you see his non-fight vs Ibragimov? He was afraid to use his right hand! David Haye is going to crowd him, just like Corrie Sanders did. Wladimir needs to attack and crowd Haye and trust his superior power, or else Haye will knock him out just like Pacman knocked out Oscar (who I thought could have won that fight by just being aggressive).
     
  3. lion

    lion Active Member Full Member

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    there will not be many "points". wlad wont survive 3 rd, he lost this fight when he signed it. i think vitaly is already trying to prepare himself for the haye fight.. the contract says it all.. wlad is in panic
     
  4. BITCH ASS

    BITCH ASS "Too Fast" Full Member

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    Primo has an outstanding jab for a big man. Watch the tape. It's fast too, and he throws it a like a big man should.

    It's true that Haye is not Louis, but Klitschko is not Primo Carnera either. That's why this fight is almost 50/50, but I'm going to go out on a ledge and suggest that Haye learns to be great in this fight and knocks Klitschko out.
     
  5. BITCH ASS

    BITCH ASS "Too Fast" Full Member

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    I'm just jokin. Klitschko will definitely win. When that right hand finds a home behind Haye's weak guard, Haye will crashing down the canvass along with all of his fans dream in a puddle of blood that dripped from his demise.

    Klitschko's outstanding jab and excellent movement for a big man in these times, in all times, will win him the match with relative ease, as people who suspected otherwise are left with their jaws wide open. Klitschko then declares himself as the greatest heavyweight of all time along with his brother and that while apart, they may be beaten, together they are unstoppable.

    They are two chessmasters at the top of their game. One armed with supernatural athleticsm and the other with a soldier's spirit and a warriors heart, a stiff but brutal armed defender of the steel fist that will destruct all that come in contact with its range.

    For no style in history can overcome the duo of Soviet Doctors and thier superior intellect.
     
  6. BITCH ASS

    BITCH ASS "Too Fast" Full Member

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    I guess we'll see. I'm often wrong though.
     
  7. celtic tiger

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    If there is any justice in the world haye will knock out wlad . Wlad for all his dominace is not a great fighter . His jab is completely overrated . it is slow and is a lazy jab . it could easily be avoided by a heavyweight who could bob and weave a bit but sadily in this putrid division there dosent seem to be any of those guys around . If you want to see a real jab watch sonny liston . larry holmes , muhammed ali , carl williams and tony tubbs now those guys could jab. Haye said about wlad is that the only reason he is so dominant is because he has such more height and reach that his opponents . he said wlad doesent anything special he isnt fast , he stands staight up has no defense , pulls staight back from punches , no lateral movement , no head movement , cant fight inside . he does one thing well that is jab and grab , jab and grab . his foot work is crap . He is awkward and clumsy . If this guy is the best the heavyweight divsion has to offer then the heavyweight divsion is in serious trouble . Mediocre heavyweights of the past such as tim witherspoon , tony tubbs , carl williams , frank bruno , pinklon thomas , ray mercer not the ghost of mercer who got beat by wlad , would box this guys ears off . David Haye may be arrogant and brash but you got to admit he is exciting to watch and brings excitement to a divsion that is on life support . Nobody out side of hard core boxing fans knows or even cares about the klischko because they are boring and cant box . As Haye said himself if the klitsckos were 6 foot tall they wouldnt even be ranked as fighters . I call on all real boxing fans to get behind haye and appreciate him while we have because if he gets beat by wlad the heavyweight divsion is finished . The heavyweight divsion is dieing and unless a potential heavyweight saviour comes along to rid us of all these fat, robotic and boring heavyweights then this divsion will a slow and very painfull death . If haye is not the saviour then who because they is nobody else out there .
     
  8. Mendoza

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    Did the axe man just compare Haye to Louis and Marciano? What a joke.
     
  9. Fighting Weight

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    Perfectly put. Whoever it was that posted the Ali V Liston comparisons was spot on.
     
  10. BITCH ASS

    BITCH ASS "Too Fast" Full Member

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    This about sums it up. You see what I see.
     
  11. Shotgun

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    Even if you believe that WALD is a carbon copy of Carnera, which is laughable, even more laughable is that you are acting like Haye, with all of 2 fights at heavyweight, is somehow on the level of Joe Louis or Rocky Marciano

    Your prediction here won't look quite as pathetic as your Wright-Williams prediction, because at least your prediction here is within the realm of reality although it will still turn out to be wrong
     
  12. Scar

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    Haye might be able to make Wladimir miss but Haye isn't really a defensive master, he might make him miss for one round or two but if he wants to land his own shots and land them with full force he will have to open up because that's just how he fights. If Barrett, Enzo Mac and Mormeck, just to name a few, were able to land on Haye then you better believe that Wladimir will and the power Wladimir will bring is something Haye never experienced before.

    Wladimir also has the size advantage in this one which will bother Haye as the fight goes. Another dangerous point you have to consider is Haye's stamina, he seemed to get tired being active and moving against Barrett of all people and Barrett at that point was tune-up material, you think he won't run out of gas against Wladimir?. I know Wladimir doesn't have the best stamina either but he can go full 12 regardless. It all depends on how Haye fights and if he's able to hurt Wladimir, if he throws and hurts Wladimir early then he has a very good shot, if not then he's in for hell.
     
  13. BITCH ASS

    BITCH ASS "Too Fast" Full Member

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    But Wlad's size will actually make it more difficult for him to land on Haye who will undoubtably come in making himself a small target, low enough where Wladimir will have great difficult landing his jab.

    As far as Haye's condition, this is the biggest fight of his career. He's talking a lot of ****. I think you will see Haye come in this fight in the best condition of his life.

    He showed no signs of slowing down in the Barret fight and I think he will show no signs of slowing down in this fight; however, the fight will not go the full 12 rounds.

    Klitschko will be knocked out around the 7th round most likely, but it just depends on how long Klitschko can keep Haye off of him. He'll have to avoid him for a long time though, but eventually Haye will catch up......probably in the 7th round.
     
  14. twopiece

    twopiece Pugilistic Ambassador Full Member

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    You might be in for a huge surprise come June 20. The Wladimir left hook is going to be a tremendous factor in this fight. :deal

    David is a fast fighter, but he stays flat-footed while trying to slip incoming jabs. Wlad's jab is already going to be the hardest, most accurate, and possibly fastest he's ever had to deal with -- the hook off of it will pay some big dividends for WK. It may actually wrap things up.

    Wlad's left hook has always been a vicious knockout punch long before he ever lost a fight. He knows how to keep the opponent weary of his punches, which makes finding the one shot they aren't looking for the easiest to catch them with unexpectedly.
     
  15. Farmboxer

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    Vlad's jab will hurt Haye. Vlad will take his time and set Haye up.

    Carnera is not in the same class as Vitali and Vlad, those who believe that have not watched their fights, nor Carnera's. The children need to do their homework.