What a sad state the HW division is... It's a Klit or bust. **** any other HW besides SNV, Klit's or Haye.
Haye will forever have the knee pads on, he isn't gonna take many risks.. the era of the non risk taking heavyweights.............
very convinient mandatory, i'd say... maybe because klitscho's don't have anybody to fight, i've never seen them hiding or running scared but i can't say the same about haye as above... and PS. i don't know why but people from UK take attacks at Haye too personal imo, his nationality has nothing to do with it, he's just a fraud...
WALDO hid from Lewis behind his WBO belt, he was waiting for the champ to get old, until he got sparked by Sanders and took himself out of the equation :yep As for VITLAY, well we all know how Hasim Rahman sent him into retirement.
How did I take it personal? Like I said, I don't want to defend Haye, and I'll be more of a spectator than a fan during his bouts until he steps up and fights the Klitschko's...but I don't see how people can criticize someone for taking a mandatory, whether it was convenient or not...usually it's the opposite.
if he really wanted to fight wlad he wouldn't have to even look at ruiz, that's a fact, like it or not and i wasn't talking about you with this UK thing, just in general...
Haye if he cant get the klitschkos to agree to the keeping own countrys tv money,or making the most revenue and splitting it so each side gets equal amount,THEN, he should only fight adamek or povetkin really. chageav is to ill to even fight properly,and is not an exciting or money making fight,and it wont happen,as the champion has no need to go to the crap challengers own country. hopefully valuev will be injured still so isnt no 2 and doesnt make a pointless rematch,where haye would be more aggresive and KO the giant if he doesnt break his right hand on valuevs big fat head again. **** any of the other "contenders" who are ranked by the WBA. If he fought adamek,it would be popular to fans,it would sell well in Uk,especially with amount of polish in the UK,and it would sell okay in america aswell with adameks fan base there too. also some people rate povetkin for some reason,so haye can KO that fool and shut up teddy atlas the big dickhead ,and do it on american tv to get his name out there more. sure haye is playing mind games with i want vitali,now i want wlad first instead,but really he would take either,but would prefer wlad first,due to most belts,ranked higher,and is weaker mentally and in the chin area. I think the klitschkos are saying very contradictory things at the moment. For example thier manager wanted Haye to fight vitali first. BUT,he also suggested booth got haye to fight out 1 more fight and be free of saureland before they dealt with boente and got talks seriously underway even though he wanted vitali next for haye and wanted haye to get rid of mandatories?. ALSO,boente clearly wants to maximise the full amount of revenue everywhere,right? But it seems like isnt too keen on going to another possibly higher paying german tv station,saying we can go but no one esle will offer more? AND on espn.com he was interviewed as saying becuase HBO backed out of buying previous klitschko fight that he would not deal with them again even if they came and offered the most for any haye or adamek vs klitschkos fight. And would take less money anywhere else just to not let HBO have the fight out of spite. Also had no reply to being transparent and open with contract talks,and he should atleast show proof of why it doesnt happen if talks fail again. Haye seemed reasonable last time round: He offered for most revenue to be made everywhere, then everything spilt down the middle,but the klitschkos didnt want to find higher bidders in germany apparently,as stuck in same contract. And then he offered them to split all world wide revenues down the middle,but keep his own uk ppv money,and klitschko keep thier own ppv money,which seems fair. and the klitschko want half of his money becuase they earn less and would give less to him,but would take more from Haye as he has a better deal for his own country tv revenue.isnt hayes fault he can do smarter better business here,than they can over there. And people say well klitschkos should take more and give less becuase it will sell more becuase Haye is fighting them and thier name brings more money than his previous fights. but haye sells out arenas on his own vs people like ruiz who no one in the country really knows about who isnt a big sports or boxing fan. and haye sells out arena vs a no hoper in audley. also haye has part sold arena in germany by fighting valuev. when did the klitschko last part sell out an arena by fighting in the UK?. even if klitschkos sell out arenas in germany vs no ones,they still dont bring as much as haye does fighitng no ones in the UK.And haye has fought and sold his fight vs valuev in germany. THE SOLUTION TO THIS: the WINNER gets what they wanted in the contracts I.E:Klitshkos win,they take half of hayes uk tv ppv money like they wanted,haye gets none of thiers. IF Haye wins,he keeps all of his own uk ppv money. (possible BONUS for winning by KO/TKO?) the rest of the world revenues is still split down the middle equally. nuetral venue,and or neutral judges and referee.with no saureland or don to be possibly corrupt in buying judges,although either way fights end in a KO. if bhop and jones got thier match going then klitschkos vs haye can. just sit back and "enjoy" either fighters knocking out bums or even highly rated contenders.then they will meet after more build up. after the klitschko and haye fight each others,i cant imagine either would carry on,who ever unifies has done it all and beaten everyone worth beating,so would be pointless of them to go back to knocking out bums.
Win over Haye wouldn't be such a big deal as you make it sound. In the future it would be seen just another win over unexperienced, former CW champ who did next to nothing in heavyweights. And even for Haye a win over Wlad and following retirement wouldn't guarantee him a place in the HOF. Wlad broke Lennox's running reign (4y2m) and who knows, maybe he aims to Ali's 6 y or even Holmes's 7y 3m. I'm getting carried away.. First he has to figure out a game plan how to win Derek. It's not pointless if fighter likes what he does and fans want more.