HBO PPV: Andre Ward vs. Sergey Kovalev II & Guillermo Rigondeaux vs. Moises Flores RBR.

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  1. jquest

    jquest Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Ward is a great fighter. Not a fan of his illegal tactics he gets away with but he is a smart fighter with something on his side with winning. He's not #1 P4P. He has an argument to be top 3. Gonzalez, Lomachenko and Crawford are ahead of him.
     
    jquest, Jun 17, 2017
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  2. Salty Dog

    Salty Dog globalize the Buc-ees revolution Full Member

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    That's what I saw.
     
    Salty Dog, Jun 17, 2017
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  3. DanielDimov

    DanielDimov Jabbing all night Full Member

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    The last shot right with the stoppage was low for sure. Anyways horrible stoppage, we've seen boxers eating punches in the head for 2 minutes in the ropes and no stoppages, but this... This looked like staged as ****, I am seriously thinking of quiting. It doesn't bring me excitment anymore. Clinching should be banned, I hate to watch fights like this. Basicly for the whole fight it was Kovalev jabing Wards nose, everytime Ward felt his power he was going for the hug. I want to watch boxing, not wrestling. P4P number 1 , Ward??? No freaking way, amazingly ugly to watch. He would never have a huge fanbase or sell a fight in Europe. All theese Las Vegas bullshits are ****ing corrupted, I am so happy about what Hearn and UK does right now. Very good cards with fine judging. Same probably will happen with GGG vs Canelo. USA ruins the boxing and pretty soon I will stop watching it. What a pitty, I doubt it I will ever wake up again at 5 am to watch a shitshow like this.
     
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  4. Serge

    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

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    Just wait till the film studies on CoWard's dirty tactics come out. You'll see a lot more dirty stuff than you realize. It's the same with so many of his fights.
     
    Serge, Jun 17, 2017
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  5. Kapparino

    Kapparino EDDIE HEARN PROTECTION UNIT Full Member

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    Final thought of the night before I go to bed.
    Bellew would give all sorts of problems to Ward.
     
    Kapparino, Jun 17, 2017
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  6. Braindamage

    Braindamage Baby Face Beast Full Member

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    Let's figure this out! If the belt is around the naval, any punch on the belt line is good.

    Were Kovalev's trunks covering the naval....YES! Did Ward's punches land on the belt line....YES! Did Ward land low blows earlier in the fight.... YES! Was the fight beat out of Kovlev with that terrible right hand....YES! Would the fight have ended with Ward stopping Kovalev, even without the"low blows"....YES! Ward 2-0, Kovalev 0-2. That's the reality of the situation! Kov is good, real good, but as long as Ward is around he'll alwayz be second best!

    Kovalev crybabies :pipi
     
    Braindamage, Jun 17, 2017
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  7. Todd498

    Todd498 Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    This. Period!
     
    Todd498, Jun 17, 2017
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  8. CST80

    CST80 The Hesitant Nihilist Staff Member

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    Admit it, be fair, Ward clearly cheated. Don't be a a-hole here, he hit Kovalev low repeatedly.
     
    CST80, Jun 17, 2017
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  9. Kratos

    Kratos Well-Known Member Full Member

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    clear bias in commentary and weeks was protecting ward all night, ward is a clinching, headbutter and ball puncher.
     
    Kratos, Jun 17, 2017
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  10. CST80

    CST80 The Hesitant Nihilist Staff Member

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    The ropes held him up, that should have been a KD.
     
    CST80, Jun 17, 2017
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  11. MVC!

    MVC! The Best Ever Full Member

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    I'm not rubbing it in on you, I only do that for people who kept repeatedly talking ****.

    I'm just saying, this is going to be a topic that will be made thread after thread, ad nauseum. You know it, I know it.

    That's all I'm saying!
     
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  12. Gannicus

    Gannicus 2014 Poster of the Year Full Member

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    Well, I need to see Ward up against a mandhandling version of Beterbiev next.
     
    Gannicus, Jun 17, 2017
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  13. OpinionOfACasual

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    It's pretty simple as a UK fight fan with no real interest in who wins this fight for me to give the non-biased view of what happened.

    A round or two before this, Kovalev did exactly the same, bending over because he was hurt.....replays show it was a low blow.

    In the round where the stoppage occurred, Ward lands an initial low blow (Proof on replay) which obviously again makes Kovalev hunch over......leading to Ward having all the room and time to land a left jab and straight right to a fully open Kovalev. This clearly stuns Kovalev....but considering he didn't go down from the 'weightiest' possible punch Ward could throw, he clearly wasn't too 'hurt'.

    Whilst still recovering, Kovalev is again hit with a single low blow, before this time having the capacity to hold. After the ref pushes them off, Ward goes straight back in landing 3 shots, all either on the belt or below. Kovalev then sits on the ropes, as if to say "FFS ref, you're going to get me KO'd if he's allowed to hit me in the balls all night".

    Ref waves it off.

    TL:DR - Ward hurts Kovalev 4 times......Low blow - Headshot caused by low blow - Low blow - 3 either low or just on the belt shots. Kovalev is stopped after 'choosing' to sit on the ropes.

    So what's that? 19/20 rounds? Still unable to settle the two....except one now has a terrible decision victory.
     
    OpinionOfACasual, Jun 17, 2017
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  14. qwertyblahblah

    qwertyblahblah Boxing Addict Full Member

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    You can check my post history and see I announced as much.
     
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  15. yesihavearm2

    yesihavearm2 ESB Chinchecker Full Member

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    Ward was the better guy tonight from start to finish really

    Kovalev may have the style to beat Ward, but his stamina and endurance has now been exposed in both fights
     
    yesihavearm2, Jun 17, 2017
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  16. velagod

    velagod Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Look at the way ward looks at ref when he first comes in, he's like damn have I been caught punching a Russians nuts?
     
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