Hearns vs Toney

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  1. Seamus

    Seamus Proud Kulak Full Member

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    Yeah, I keep forgetting that he fought Williams at 168.

    He should have been a better lightheavy, but Hearns WAS a better lightheavy.

    Point taken.
     
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  2. Rock0052

    Rock0052 Loyal Member Full Member

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    Definitely think he could've beaten Hearns at any of those weights though, to be fair. I just don't see it being an easy bout given Hearns' length and Toney's propensity for sluggishness for stretches of his career. That coasting and blowing up in weight between fights (it was something like 40+ pounds in 6 weeks for Jones, IIRC, especially disturbing considering how important that fight was) could pop up at any point with no notice.

    Hearns was more consistent in both what he performed well against and what he struggled with. A young, aggressive, conditioned Toney would've been a really tough styles matchup for him.

    Overall, Toney's career is really tough to accurately gauge for me. Some great stuff on the high end (Nunn, Jirov, Holyfield, McCallum, etc), great longevity (PED's or no, most guys don't/won't stick around like that), but some stretches that just left me scratching my head. Going the WBU route at 175? WTF?
     
  3. JohnThomas1

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    Hearns beat Andries years earlier too.
     
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  4. surfinghb

    surfinghb Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I see Tommy wanting to mix it up with Toney and getting knocked out
     
  5. Cobra33

    Cobra33 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Toney was very inconsistant. I mean look at some of his losses. They are horrible.
    To best Hearns he would have to be on his A game and with Toney you never know.
    With Hearns you know. He comes in shape and gives it his all.
    The Hearns that beat Andries beats the crap out of Toney. Too Mich speed and he has the power to hurt Toney.
     
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  6. Brixton Bomber

    Brixton Bomber Obsessed with Boxing banned Full Member

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    Why didn't Manny let them spar?
     
  7. THE BLADE 2

    THE BLADE 2 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    No the thread is about the best versions of each. Otherwise, those mythical matchcups have little sense
     
  8. SHADAPBLAD

    SHADAPBLAD Viscous Knockouts Full Member

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    vecaue toney would ruin gearns diet
     
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  9. JohnThomas1

    JohnThomas1 VIP Member

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    From memory it went along the lines of Steward being a bit worried for Tommy andTommy would have to go flat out against him to keep up.

    To be honest i think it was as much to hype the new prodigy as anything. Moorer said he would never go in trying to knock Hearns out or the likes, they'd just have a good workout. He also said Hearns was out of his class. A lot gets said.
     
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  10. Brixton Bomber

    Brixton Bomber Obsessed with Boxing banned Full Member

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    How would you see a session between the two going?
     
  11. Cobra33

    Cobra33 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    It is about them at their best and as pointed out with Toney- who lacked Hearns discipline- you never know what Toney shows up. And that is a big factor.
     
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  12. KuRuPT

    KuRuPT Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Both at their best, Toney beats him imo. He'd be yapping to Hearns, and Hearns would try and take his head off, and get countered and hurt badly. Sure, anything can happen, but that is the most likely imo
     
  13. THE BLADE 2

    THE BLADE 2 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    It is difficult to understand your logic.It is about matching the best versions of each fighter.At middleweight, that would be the Toney of the Mc Callum fight.
     
  14. JohnThomas1

    JohnThomas1 VIP Member

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    I think it would be a lot lower key than imagined tbh.
     
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  15. Cobra33

    Cobra33 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Toney would never be able to outbox Hearns. And as far as one punch power that goes to Hearns as well.
    And I also think Toney lost to McCallum the first time.
     
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