Heavyweight fights 2019

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  1. Twentyman

    Twentyman You dog nonce! banned Full Member

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    I did say he was suspended from his mandatory position.

    It really doesn’t matter if he enrolled in VADA and even passed the 6 tests during camp. It’s my understanding that you have to be signed to VADA if you want to fight for the WBC belts so this is a requirement rather than a moral ‘i’ll show everyone i’m clean’ one.
    The facts are, there’s an adverse finding on his UKAD test and it’s been leaked to Hause that it was dianabol metabolites.

    According to Frank Warren, a few people at the BBBofC were disgruntled at Whyte being allowed to box against Rivas. Maybe the leak came from them. Who knows but it came from someone at UKAD or the BBBofC.
     
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  2. Aydamn

    Aydamn Dillian Da Dissappointment Full Member

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    Whyte is not signed to VADA just because of the WBC obligation, he is signed voluntarily as well... when out of competition. He pays out of his own pocket. I wouldn't have mentioned it, if every other top 15 WBC fighter is doing the same, but Whyte is doing it more extensively.

    He passed before and after fightnight, which is quite significant, and he has been tested for many, many years. Clean since 2012, I wonder how many tests he has done since then?
     
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  3. fenoc1

    fenoc1 Active Member Full Member

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    Is that the one that Whyte cheated in ? No contest it should be when all is said and done
     
  4. Aydamn

    Aydamn Dillian Da Dissappointment Full Member

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    I don't know, is it the one he cheated in? You tell me? You must be an official.
     
  5. fenoc1

    fenoc1 Active Member Full Member

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    Previously caught using PED's so that puts me in pole position here. Now to the main question which is his fight against Rivas. He failed the first sample, that we can agree is true ? 99.9% of B samples also test positive. And in all of my time I can remember I haven't seen a B sample come back any different to the first one. I know your a big Whyte fan, thats clear for us all to see. But hes a drug cheat. Do i condemn him, most certainly. Is he the only boxer doing it ? most definitely not. (Fury, Joshua, Povetkin, Saunders, Pacquaio, Marquez, Berto) Does it make it right ? No

    Conclusion: Drug Cheat
     
  6. Aydamn

    Aydamn Dillian Da Dissappointment Full Member

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    Do you work in sales? You are
    Pretty good at selling lies.

    Seriously I am impressed, I should learn from you. Let me have a try with your sales technique:


    Lorem ipsum dolor sit amet, consectetur adipiscing elit, sed do eiusmod tempor incididunt ut labore et dolore magna aliqua. Ut enim ad minim veniam, quis nostrud exercitation ullamco laboris nisi ut aliquip ex ea commodo consequat. Duis aute irure dolor in reprehenderit in voluptate velit esse cillum dolore eu fugiat nulla pariatur. Excepteur sint occaecat cupidatat non proident, sunt in culpa qui officia deserunt mollit anim id est laborum.

    Conclusion: your post is incorrect.

    Seriously though, obviously B samples come back the same unless tampered with that is not the point. The point is it gets asked for WHEN you think it has been tampered with, the misconception is it gets called for by default.

    This is usually in the case where a fighter doesnt have substantial evidence for medical professionals to be convinced that the adverse finding caused by factors other than negligence or foul play by the athlete in question. Luckily for Whyte he is in a strong position with VADA testing that is random, 356 stretching back years. And no, I am not talking about VADA WBC top 15 contender obligations, I mean thr voluntary scheme.

    No other fighter is able to provide this supporting documentation which the NADP will and have accepted it as good enough to clear him to fight. UKAD accepted the verdict of the panel and told the BBBoC this guy is clear.
     
  7. fenoc1

    fenoc1 Active Member Full Member

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    Correct I do work in sales.
    The rest of your above statement is bullsh*t. He failed the test, he knows, Hearn knows, the boxing world knows.. The only person that doesn't think so is you. You telling me when he failed way back and he was fighting for pittance, that he now will go clean when theres millions involved. Cut the messing
     
  8. Aydamn

    Aydamn Dillian Da Dissappointment Full Member

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    To cut a long story short, do you think he will get banned or not?

    I believe he will get cleared with good evidence.
     
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  9. fenoc1

    fenoc1 Active Member Full Member

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    seriously.. Hope he gets cleared mate. Id like to believe him he seems a good guy.. Just since Fury , Canelo, Ortiz etc. My faith in athletes is gone
     
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  10. Aydamn

    Aydamn Dillian Da Dissappointment Full Member

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    Yeah and I completely understand but 1 million per cent, Whytes case is the most unique and different to all those other cases given his vocalness on VADA and doing it regularly. He doesnt strike me as the type to make this mistake at all or do it deliberately so this is why I have faith... he aint a typical PED case.
     
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  11. Aydamn

    Aydamn Dillian Da Dissappointment Full Member

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    Twenty, you might think VADA is not going to be important, but boy... you will be wrong on this one.

    I know right now I might look like the idiot for rambling on about VADA, when it is a UKAD case. But it is very, very relevant.
     
  12. Aydamn

    Aydamn Dillian Da Dissappointment Full Member

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    Just be prepared to reinstate Whyte vs Rivas when Whyte gets cleared yeah. Then you'll gain a few brownie points.
     
  13. Furious

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    Stop worrying about scoring points on the internet so much :)
     
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  14. Aydamn

    Aydamn Dillian Da Dissappointment Full Member

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    It's my weakness man. I am not perfect lol
     
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  15. Furious

    Furious Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I do kind of admire your dedication to debate on here - but as I've said many times before, doesn't mean much.. just an internet forum.

    Again though, as I've said before, do what you want :)
     
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