Heavyweight Tourney: Rd 3: Pt. 2: Results

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MORPHY :good

 

The call here is horrible. Sure Wlad was stopped three times, but Sullvian never fought a puncher close to the level of the guys who fought Wlad.

If a middle weight could flood Sullivan, I'm sure Wlad could too.

 

Sounds good i knew i should have ordered the PPV.

I agree with the Rocky result. Not so much with the Klitschko call but can take nothing away from the legendary sullvin who knows what could happen over 15

 

Whether Wlad could flood Sullivan ,as Mitchell did ,would depend on how big his hose was. imo

[Sorry, I am in a flippant mood tonight].

 

Wlad's stamina for the past few years has been great. No trouble going 12. Who was the best fighter that Sullvian beat? Kirlain is the pick, and I tend to doubt he would be a top ten guy today.

The only film on Sullivan is when he's an old man hitting the bag, or mock sparring with Corbett.

Bottom line is most historians don't rate John L over the best men who came after him up to Louis in the 1930's. In fact, I'm not sure Sullvian would even have the edge in power in this match. Wlad size, skills, speed, power, defense, reach, footwork..everything but chin point to a systematic TKO here. The length of this fight would depends on how tough Sullivan really was. Sullivan has a puncher's chance, but he's short, and without a lot of reach or modern science.

 

I think you lot forget Sullivan had cat like speed, used to leap high in the air while simultaneously punching over and thru an opponents guard. He also could leap several feet backward thru the air in defense. The man was an athlete.

 

Yeah, me great great granpappy has a charcoal interpretation of a daguerreotype showing Sullivan doing a leaping lord around Kilrain before landing his vaunted right "Whiskey Jane" upon Jake's left buttock.

He would crush that whippersnapper Klitschko in two swigs of the Blarney Juice.

 

I dont disagree with this result, in fact i predicted it. The only thing i cant understand is how Sullivan actually pulled it off. Rocky too for that matter, but Rocky always has that way of pulling victory out when it is least expected. This is a superhuman effort from Sullivan and a deserving victory, but didnt Wlad get more votes?

 

Given that Sullivan had his last fight in 1892,and was dead by 1918, a year before Dempsey ripped the ttile from Willard. which historians that actually saw him fight would have still been around to view the rise of Joe Louis?
Nat Fleischer was one of the oldest historians , and he only went back to Jeffries.
Sullivan is largely an unknown quantity.

 

They were more advanced so i wouldn't could them out, but i'd definitely favor Kasparov. The problem with him is that he's not only great in a head-to-head sense because of his "modern training", but that he's also arguably the greatest player of all time. He went even (2-2-2) with Spassky when he was 17-19 years of age. The amount of records he broke is scary. Truly the Muhammad Ali of chess. Fischer was a brilliant player too, though. I saw him beat a grandmaster when he was 15 years of age and did it by a stunningly deep and cool move. The grandmaster didn't surrended to give him a few moves more joy that he earned. True gentlemen, not something you want to do in boxing though!

Morphy, like Sullivan, was great for his time, but would absolutely be demolished by Kasparov, who has the knowledge of one and a half century of great chess players, and was able to study them during every second of his spare time without having to worry about food, how to travel, playing in a time when only 0.1% of all people could play chess, etc etc. No comparison head to head.

 

Okay, i've just gone to the thread and counted the votes.

The tally is in:

Number of votes for:

Sullivan: 5
Wlad: 25
Neutral: 4

Looks like not only the government of Ukraine is corrupt...


Link to the thread: http://www.eastsideboxing.com/forum/showthread.php?t=185412&page=1

Their reasons and picks:
Sullivan:

Boilermaker (Sullivan TKO3)
Janitor (Sullivan TKO6)
Djanders (Sullivan TKO4)
Unforgiven (KO1, seems to be joking, but i'll include him in the John L camp)
Legend X (Sullivan TKO4)



Wladimir:

ChrisPontius (Wlad TKO10)
Seamus (Wlad TKO2)
Jack (Wlad KO2)
Bummy Davis (Wlad TKO7-8)
Mr Butt (Wlad UD, though wouldn't be surprised to see Sullivan TKO)
RonnieHornSchuh (Wlad TKO when he wants)
Frankenfrank (Wlad TKO2)
mckay_89 (Wlad early KO)
DudeGuyMan (Wlad KO1)
Guilalah (Wlad wins)
PowerPuncher (Wlad KO1)
Fleaman (Wlad TKO2)
Teeto (Wlad TKO2, agreeing with Fleaman)
196osh (Wlad by KO within a couple of rounds)
Jim Broughton (Wlad wins by KO)
PetethePrince (picking Sullivan is irresponsible thinking)
Squire (Sullivan doesn't have the skillset)
Mendoza (Wlad TKO mid rounds)
He grant (Wlad by boring decision. Janitor doesn't understand why Sullivan's face is not on dollar bills.)
am0kgonzo (agrees with Seamus)
Del Boy (Wlad KO6)
KTFO (Wlad KO2, superior footwork, etc)




Commented, but undecided:
BlackWater
Cross_trainer (does hint towards a Wlad victory)
TheGreatA
JohnThomas1